Let's not jump to conclusions
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he is a digital frotteur (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frotteurism). at the same time this is where everyone should draw the line.
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His only request is not to be called Hitler.
Nazi salute was confirmed, grow up.
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Don't conflate an argument being unclear, with you having trouble understanding it
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Don't assume anything about anyone you've just met.
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you’re an idiot
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I've made no statement about you. So, your response is a bit weird.
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Sorry, but no. Anyone in their right mind would have immediately come out and said I apologize for that action etc etc. The fact the he didn't is all the implication required for him to be labeled at nazi. There is no denying no excusing it.
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The media is trying to downplay the blatant nazi salute by saying he was "throwing his heart to people"
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with you having trouble understanding it
That was a "you" statement.
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i agree… however he did deny it implicitly by saying that “everyone is hitler is so tired”….
it’s still obviously a nazi salute and if he immediately said “i’m not a nazi and disavow all nazis, and that was an accident, i didn’t mean to make my arm so straight… i see how it looks like that but it wasn’t on purpose, im totally not a nazi”, it wouldn’t matter at all… it was still a plain nazi salute.
actually hitting his chest first is the way neo-nazis do it now.
i actually heard, years ago, from a friend who had some too close to nazis past, that putting your hand over your heart first means “my heart goes out to the white race” more or less….
also the violent way he snapped his arm out….
it’s UNDENIABLY a contemporary, neo-nazi salute.
i haven’t been able to find another source for why neo-nazis put their hand on their chest… mostly because google fucked up the date range search… and i didn’t really believe my friend at the time… but it was as direct as possible without actually saying it.
musk did essentially deny it, weakly, but that’s irrelevant… except documenting their gaslighting tactics.
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“everyone is hitler is so tired"
This means Musk is bored of being called a Nazi. Nothing more. Certainly there is no denial of doing a Nazi salute.
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no it means he’s applying the gaslighting tactic of “you’re so paranoid that you’re imagining nazis in everything”
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So ... not a denial.
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that’s a form of denial.
is the new troll tactic to just be as literal as possible and pretend like you can’t understand anything between the lines?
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So what if it was a Nazi Salute “everyone is hitler is so tired"
You see how a confirmation fits just as easily as your imagined denial.
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whatever, troll…
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Given you admit it was a Nazi salute, and you are inventing a denial, you are a literal fascist apologist.
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The argument is that the explanation was valid, and whether or not you found it valid, is more to do with your inability to get it. Now, this isn't saying anything about you, because you might get it. So, the "you", is not the particular you, but rather "one such that would meet the requirement". But hey, you do you.
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That is still not a denial
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wow, you sure know how to repeat yourself