Current day America has proven beyond a doubt, humanity is the only animal that wouldn't jump out of a slowly boiling pot of water.
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People from all over the world are trying to get into this boiling pot. Despite America's flaws, very few places are better alternatives when you look at economic opportunity and political rights. It is popular to trash on America now because who is president for the next four years but there's also only so many things he can do with an executive order and Congress isn't a fast moving engine.
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This is a problem I'm having now with my boyfriend. I want to get out of the US and he says, "Where? Everywhere's falling to fascism right now. And it's hard and expensive to emigrate." It doesn't help that he also thinks it's not worth it to think about leaving until the water's actually boiling and he has verified it.
Your boyfriend is right. Unless one of you has an in-demand technical degree or a lot of money, immigration to Western countries is going to be out of reach. That leaves you with weakened economies which are either already authoritarian, or trending authoritarian. Even if you could get to a place like Europe, far-right parties emboldened by their new U.S. support are rising in popularity and receiving centrist support in places like France and Germany.
There is no green field to relax in while the rest of the world collapses. You'll have to fight to prevent the slide to fascism wherever you go.
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Your boyfriend is right. Unless one of you has an in-demand technical degree or a lot of money, immigration to Western countries is going to be out of reach. That leaves you with weakened economies which are either already authoritarian, or trending authoritarian. Even if you could get to a place like Europe, far-right parties emboldened by their new U.S. support are rising in popularity and receiving centrist support in places like France and Germany.
There is no green field to relax in while the rest of the world collapses. You'll have to fight to prevent the slide to fascism wherever you go.
True - it's the rising tide right now and probably for humanity's future since we're on a sinking ship globally. I do have the benefit of working for a global country and a boss who's already told me I can transfer to whichever I pick that they operate in. But he's not as optimistic for his own job needs, and it's still about choosing a country that could possibly just let us die in peace before it also goes to shit.
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I only see an issue with it if you are in-between getting the identification modified as the gears of beaucrarcy grind very slow
Or, you know, you live in a red state that fights tooth and nail to not update that information, all in the hopes that this day would eventually come.
Updating your vital records is a state level item, and the process will vary by state, and that's a requirement to get it changed on your Federal passport. Please don't forget that a large amount of states have been trying to pretend these people don't exist, and now the federal government is trying to help make that a reality.
Hm ok. but again: What prevents me from just not doing the whole passport changing thing in the US and staying X/Y for now, acquiring the passport, getting out and immigrating somewhere else doing and do the whole paperwork there instead.
Please don't take this as an ignorant take. I am neither a US citizen nor trans but interested and feel for my fellow friends on the other side of the pond.
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This is not the case. Trans people are being denied passports of either gender marker as officials "wait for clarification" on the new rules. Furthermore, passports are being confiscated.
Big oof then. Good luck for the folks that need it to escape.
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This is a problem I'm having now with my boyfriend. I want to get out of the US and he says, "Where? Everywhere's falling to fascism right now. And it's hard and expensive to emigrate." It doesn't help that he also thinks it's not worth it to think about leaving until the water's actually boiling and he has verified it.
Yeah most people were like "I'm moving to Canada!" Ignoring the fact that the person most likely to be PM in a couple months is also fully a Musk shill. Europe is pushing right-wing and the UK's been down bad for a while. Maybe Australia or New Zealand?
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Hm ok. but again: What prevents me from just not doing the whole passport changing thing in the US and staying X/Y for now, acquiring the passport, getting out and immigrating somewhere else doing and do the whole paperwork there instead.
Please don't take this as an ignorant take. I am neither a US citizen nor trans but interested and feel for my fellow friends on the other side of the pond.
If you're not out yet, it's not necessarily an issue, but masking hurts them a lot mentally after a while. Those who are already out but haven't changed their documents have to go back to masking (assuming they're willing to) to move forward with getting updated documents. And God's forbid you've started the process but it's not completed, because they might straight up take your docs and tell you to fuck off.
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I understand, but like lots of people in America I was born here and have have had my wages suppressed because of multiple “once in a lifetime” financial crises to the point I can’t afford to travel, and therefore I can’t afford to immigrate.
I genuinely so sorry and wish the good Americans could move over easier.
One word of advice you don't have to take at all. If you wanna travel look into placements like teaching or volunteering. Having a more global perspective rather than America focus will help a lot, seeing a world outside the bougie third world nation of America. But I'm rooting for you bud -
Yeah most people were like "I'm moving to Canada!" Ignoring the fact that the person most likely to be PM in a couple months is also fully a Musk shill. Europe is pushing right-wing and the UK's been down bad for a while. Maybe Australia or New Zealand?
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Lobsters
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latin america africa and many parts of east asia sending its regards
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“The guy trying to help me out of a pot is a different type of left than me, so i don’t want his help, and that other guy below me is also a different type of left so fuck him. Anyone who is slightly right or left of me is a fascist and I’m gonna enjoy watching them boil”
-the American left in 2024
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It's still not warm enough for population over a tipping point, you are just more aware of the boiling apparatus. I believe humanity will jump once it gets warm enough, much like a frog does, even in a slowly boiling pot of water. I trust humanity, after all we've survived so far, our ancestors overcoming much much worse. Can you imagine living in feudalism? Or sword fighting in medieval times? Or when we had to hunt?
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Thinking about slow-moving effects, I have a theory that exposure to fiction is one reason people feel inadequate and depressed. For most of human history our idea of what it meant to be normal came from real people around us. We didn't know any fictional characters except for a handful of stories told around the fire. After radio was invented we got to know a lot more fictional characters, a lot faster and more intimately than we get to know most real people. Then television made it more vivid because we could see them. We think of many of these unreal people as our friends, and some of them have more impact on us than real people do. It's a lot easier to feel boring and inadequate than it was when we didn't feel like we knew people whose lives are so much more dramatic and interesting than ours. I think this is a large part of why it feels like failure to have an uremarkable job or date average people. It's a very slow-moving effect nobody would have seen coming.
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It's still not warm enough for population over a tipping point, you are just more aware of the boiling apparatus. I believe humanity will jump once it gets warm enough, much like a frog does, even in a slowly boiling pot of water. I trust humanity, after all we've survived so far, our ancestors overcoming much much worse. Can you imagine living in feudalism? Or sword fighting in medieval times? Or when we had to hunt?
We'll definitely jump when it gets hot enough, the problem is if the logistics and mechanics of handling it take longer than it takes the world to become uninhabitable.
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Tell that to my cat who keep trying to go outside when its freezing and its winter. Wtf
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I said very few places were better alternatives. Scandinavia is never going to be able to accommodate the volume of migrants as had the United States. Scandinavia also has a lot of problems regarding their immigrant communities ... high unemployment, crime, and difficulty integrating. When comparing people in the US and places like Sweden, if you control for factors like race or immigration status, the average expected experience fairs very well in the United States. Where I live in the US is very clean, gun violence is low, my cost of healthcare is almost zero ... really the only thing I'd like is the vacation time but I am self-employed and am a cruel boss to myself. Most of the problems Europeans try to claim about the US are problems that do exist but are largely confined to black communities. These problems do need to be addressed but are things that Europeans have no real comparison to outside places that have large romani populations.
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The US will have a democratic election in two years and it is very likely the Democrats will retake the House of Representatives. After that time, everything President Trump tries to do will rapidly decelerate. Of course, that depends on what the Democrats do to win the vote. Right now they are doubling down on the things that made them into losers the last election. They need to get their act together.
