Vicariously Offended
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I mean I'm Bavarian and if people wear Lederhosen and set up their own Oktoberfest it's kinda lame. Not that I think it's bad, it's just that I'm not a fan of that stuff here either.
You can totally have all of that. I keep the many many small breweries making fantastic beer. -
Ahh⦠The Onion, my favorite, most reliable, 100% not parodic news outlet
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You know what? you're right.
Usually, to solve that, what I do is look at who did it and ask (the person directly or myself) why they did it.
A practical example: You know that new DC animated series? I think it's called Creature Commandos. I haven't seen it, but I hear it's very good. Mind you, if you have seen it, can you tell me if anything happens, anything at all, related to Venezuela?
What happens is that they used as intro a very famous and beloved Venezuelan song: "Moliendo CafΓ©" (grinding coffee). All the other Venezuelans I've seen have loved it, but I remain skeptical, because I can't help wondering: Did they chose that song because it's somehow related to what is told in the story? Because Gunn just wanted to? Or because it sounded "very Latin" and different enough from the Mexican songs they always reuse? If it's the first, great; if it's the second, no problem; but the third...?
And the thing is, if I happen to come across the Youtube channel of some Swiss guy doing a electric guitar cover of "Moliendo CafΓ©", I wouldn't even go to his comments and yell "Cultural Appropriation!", because he's just an individual and what he does is harmless (and pretty neat). But a big company like Warner/Discovery...?
Unless the main people responsible are from or have roots in the country where the cultural expression comes from, it can't be anything but exploitation and, of course, cultural appropriation.
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This is just completely tone-deaf bullshit. Equating modern working conditions (in western countries) to slavery is like comparing a contemporary Scandinavian prison to Auschwitz. It's by very far not the same.
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Yes, The Onion is satire, but we're talking about the idea The Onion was satirizing.
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"whites"
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Thanks for explaining. I never understood the American outrage about cultural appropriation but it's just about respecting sacred symbols from other cultures? Sounds about right, please feel free to dress as a Frenchman with beret and baguette as long as you respect our no-tipping policy.
Next item to discover on my list: why are Americans so upset about "black face". And that's what I witnessed in Sevilla (Spain) recently which did not seem racist to me at all: https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2023/01/05/polemica-espana-blackface-reyes-magos-trax/
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Probably because he always outwits his opponents and always wins. He's not any more crazy than the other Looney Tunes, he's as smart as Bugs, and unlike Bugs, he's never cruel and remains firmly heroic.
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That's the crux. He's a Mexican stereotype, but at the time, it was rare to have a good guy who looked like that.
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Next item to discover on my list: why are Americans so upset about "black face".
That's because of minstrel shows. They were American comedy acts where actors would paint their faces black and act out racist stereotypes. The premise was "look at me! I'm a black person!" and then they'd do something stupid and everyone would laugh. Note that black people were slaves at the time. When slavery was (mostly) abolished after the civil war, the shows and makeup became symbols of racism.
It's kind of like how a swastika in a Buddhist temple is fine but a swastika tattoo on a white American isn't. The swastika doesn't have to be racist symbol, but there are few places you could display one without it being interpreted as a racist symbol.
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Whats your ICQ?
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You mean I cannot wear a sombrero while having sex? That's sad. But okay.
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Don't be silly, thongs have nothing to do with Australia, they were invented in the 19th Century by Frenchman Philippe Follope.
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It's a thin line between celebrating indigenous cultures and heritage and exploiting it. The Washington Redskins being something I feel everyone can clearly see was over that line, but wearing a sombrero is clearly nowhere near it.
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[email protected]replied to Queen HawlSera last edited by
Sure seems like Flax and Queen HawlSera are the same person, telling a two part story with back to back posts like that. I must be reading into things though, cause it sure would be weird to care so much about this topic to use multiple accounts to try to prove your point about it.
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insert Ricky Gervais cultural appropriation joke here
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There's a big difference between participation and appropriation, and the "anti-woke" hive mind goes out of it's way to conflate the two.
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Culture is meant to be shared, as long as you're not caricaturing or mocking the culture you're trying to portray, most people from said culture would be flattered.
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IMO it's appropriation if it's done disrespectfully or in an exploitative or profiteering way. Otherwise, it would just be cultural segregation. Imagine liberalism turned full apartheid.
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[email protected]replied to Queen HawlSera last edited by
please stop getting offended on behalf of others
You, and the rest of the posters on here, completely misunderstand. I, a white guy, don't get offended "on behalf of others" - the fact that white people have to constantly reference other cultures because we sterilized and sacrificed our own for the sake of white supremacism and "westernism" so long ago is offensive, period.