Lots of people asking questions about the fediverse over at /r/fediverse

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they should really only suggest lemmee or shitjustworks, not a fan of any that block stuff like piracy

Blaze (he/him)

Let's discuss how to efficiently promote Lemmy to potential new joiners - Lemmy

To follow-up on the Reddit thread [https://feddit.org/post/7074664] yesterday, here are a few elements that can be interesting to discuss. #### Link to specific instances and apps rather than just saying Lemmy Just quoting “Lemmy” or pointing to join-lemmy.org [http://join-lemmy.org] can lead to a very unintuitive and clunky experience, as people can just end up randomly on a very small and/or outdated instance. Recent post by a new joiner 9 days ago, they had to change server 2 times to get a satisfying experience: https://lemmy.world/post/24220536 [https://lemmy.world/post/24220536]. Using something like “Lemmy has 42k monthly active users - https://discuss.online/ [https://discuss.online/] if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency) - https://sopuli.xyz/ [https://sopuli.xyz/] if you want a server located in the EU - https://vger.app/ [https://vger.app/] if you want an app Feel free if you have any questions” Can already point them in one direction, and avoid them getting lost in the too many options. If people want to debate the choice of those two instances, I’ll add my thought process in the comments. #### The Lemmy feed looks as depressing as Reddit’s All, and how to mitigate that Some feedback I received when promoting Lemmy the way above > Just checked out lemmy to see if it’s different from reddit. Im very disappointed lmao. > First post I see is a comic about cultural appropriation with an ifunny watermark. Next are several posts about the proton vpn ceo “going full maga.” And finally a post I saw on Reddit days ago that is ragebait making fun of the cybertruck. > Yikes. It’s the same exact thing. – > Lemmy still has a pretty obnoxious tankie problem. Even if you block the .ml instance, pretty much every thread about US politics or world news on any major instance gets hijacked by the same handful of trolls and their associated vote bots. Hopefully this will become less of a problem as more sane people join, but just as a word of caution, be aware that you will be called western imperialist scum by a bunch of 14 year olds. – > Lemmy is utter rubbish, it’s as if their entire userbase consists of the top layer of scum carefully siphoned off from the Reddit cesspool. It got the worst of the annoying political echo chamber and “very smart” argumentative users from Reddit. > I just clicked on half a dozen random Lemmy servers, and all of them had at least one link about Trump in the top 5 posts. Even ones that seem like they’re supposed to be about tech. > Normal humans want the Reddit of 10+ years ago back. We don’t want to use a different site colonized by the same modern day Redditors we loathe interacting with. – To be fair, you can’t say they’re wrong. Open https://discuss.online/ [https://discuss.online/] , by default you’ll be set on All - Active. Out of the first 9 posts you see, 8 are about T or M, the last one being a meme. What I try to do in such instances is to give something like “While politics are important, you can still very much block them. Here are an example of some communities that can interest you: - https://discuss.online/c/[email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://discuss.online/c/[email protected]] - https://discuss.online/c/[email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://discuss.online/c/[email protected]] - https://discuss.online/c/[email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://discuss.online/c/[email protected]] - https://discuss.online/c/[email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://discuss.online/c/[email protected]] - https://discuss.online/post/15026558 [https://discuss.online/post/15026558] for 20 non-political communities” I also wrote a long post about that issue that you can read here https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1fmuk7o/post_to_address_the_usual_criticism_about_lemmy/ [https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1fmuk7o/post_to_address_the_usual_criticism_about_lemmy/] As a side note, I recently started a discussion on [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://lemm.ee/c/fedigrow] about a potential political-free instance for new joiners, feel free to have a look: https://feddit.org/post/6819084 [https://feddit.org/post/6819084] #### Lemmy is too small, 42k monthly active users is nothing Discuit, the centralized alternative to Reddit, currently counts 181 weekly active commenters: https://discuit.net/DiscuitMeta/post/NlAdOWAp [https://discuit.net/DiscuitMeta/post/NlAdOWAp] You can also mention that NodeBB is now federating with Lemmy: - https://feddit.org/post/7035166?scrollToComments=true [https://feddit.org/post/7035166?scrollToComments=true] - https://community.nodebb.org/topic/71fe3f89-361c-4716-a79e-de02f94b3113/test-from-lemmy-to-nodebb [https://community.nodebb.org/topic/71fe3f89-361c-4716-a79e-de02f94b3113/test-from-lemmy-to-nodebb] That’s all for now, happy to discuss in the comments. Note: if you’re not interested in promoting Lemmy, feel free to hide this post, you are able to do this on specific posts if your instance is running 0.19.4 and newer

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Blaze (he/him)

"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users

https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency)
https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU
https://vger.app/ if you want an app

Feel free if you have any questions"

Why those two? https://lemmy.world/comment/14616442

Blaze (he/him)

"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users

https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency)
https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU
https://vger.app/ if you want an app

Feel free if you have any questions"

Why those two? https://sh.itjust.works/post/31492067/16218879

Blaze (he/him)

"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users

https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency)
https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU
https://vger.app/ if you want an app

Feel free if you have any questions"

Why those two? https://lemm.ee/post/53298989/17673980

Blaze (he/him)

Town and cities subreddits are probably going to be the last to move

OpenStars

I don't even bother with the largest communities here anymore, which all seem like circle jerk echo chambers to me. Of the top 10 communities on Lemmy.World, I am no longer subscribed to any of them. And then of the next 10, I am only subscribed to Not the Onion and Fediverse.

Just like Reddit, the largest ones have most of the toxicity. The niche subs are way more chill. Unfortunately, being on Lemmy.World you can't interact with any of the content on Beehaw - which has odd moderation behaviors, chief among them being that people must be "nice* whatever that means.

So more niche subs might be to your liking as well. You can't force people to like what you say though, only either tailor your comments to match their viewpoints or else move to where yours are at least respected and hopefully even welcomed.

Blaze (he/him)

If they ever do and it's unjustified, feel free to report to [email protected]

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they dont know it works like email tho, thats the initial hangup, also it already has issues like lemmyworld blocking piracy instances

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I do think apps should default to lemmee or shitjustworks and then have an option for more savvy user to pick something else in the corner rather than giving them the option to pick immediately

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I slightly prefer mlem even tho its similar, arctic is the cleanest with the least issues displaying things imo, at least on iphone

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I think they shouldnt even be shown other servers inititslly on the apps, have it in the corner as an optional pick, default to lemmee or shitjustworks since they dont block stuff like piracy, or if you're scared of legal trouble default to lemmyworld

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The main appeal of Voyager is that it's available on both Android and iOS

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Lemmy feels pretty centrist, idk politics are weird plenty of right mfs have very leftist views that they see as right wing views if that makes sense, plenty of left wing ppl going off emotion too. I feel like on lemmy no one tweaks if you agree with one of trumps actions while hating 99% of them, elsewhere like on reddit they'll pile on you for considering they could have one good point,like yeah maybe cartels should be designated terrorists good job there

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i remember that for me the only issue was which instance to join, just because i didn't understand instances. Could you see other instances, do you have to create a username on each, Is you username automatically on all of them. Can every instance see your posts, etc... I don't blame some people for being scared to switch to something new after spending a big part of their life somewhere that they got used to and build a "community".

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forsure that makes a lot of sense

HobbitFoot

Jeroba would default to .ml because the devs also admin the instance.

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wish we could somehow transfer reddit history, but reddit legally owns our posts and identity

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I had 3 alts all get banned at once with my main, I commented on the front page with an alt that was supposdely banned. They were all logged into the app tho thats easy enough to notice (it bothers me that they claim I was evading a ban? like id be smart enough to at least use a vpn and not login all my alts into the same app on the same phone if it was for evading a subreddit ban...)

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Theres just a niche subrddit for everything, thats its one pro, but then you realize everyones just showing off and gatekeeping or trying to sell you something