Centrism

atro_city

USAmericans have successfully identified the middleground as a target because the idea of getting along is so foreign to them.

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Adopting the names of left leaning styles of government does nothing to change their actual oligarch and kleptocratic styles is leadership, so that does not apply.

Unless we're to believe that Nazi Germany was somehow just a bunch of misguided socialists...

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Why can't you just get along with the nazis like we on the enlightened center do

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That is literally the exact opposite of centrists.

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Are the centrists in the room with us now?

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Nice projection - the people who voted for Harris even though she wasn't ideal because the alternative was what we have now weren't actually being mature adults, they just had their heads in the sand! Keep telling yourselves that and be making up more memes as the SWAT team comes climbing up your Moral Purity pedestal.

ObjectivityIncarnate

Wow, author doesn't know what centrism OR horseshoe theory are, lol.

Hint: Neither of them are accurately described as "both sides are equally bad".

I'm reminded of a Christian fundamentalist depicting an atheist being gotcha'd by being asked where his morality comes from if there's no God, and literally having a "checkmate atheists" moment over it. Equally smugly dumb.

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With all the demonizing of men in the last 40yrs, you really have your head so far up your ass you can't see the people the "liberals" are actually oppressing, and it's created this toxic and insane male counter culture that is just as insane as your eicxan ideology.
You idiots caused this current state.

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With all the demonizing of men in the last 40yrs...

ah hahahahhahahahahha

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If you voted for Harris, you're not the kind of centrist this comic is referring to.

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Wow, author doesn’t know what centrism OR horseshoe theory are, lol.

"In popular discourse, the horseshoe theory asserts that advocates of the far-left and the far-right, rather than being at opposite and opposing ends of a linear continuum of the political spectrum, closely resemble each other, analogous to the way that the opposite ends of a horseshoe are close together"

What'd they get wrong, exactly?

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Someone that believes the middle of a political spectrum is the difference between the two most popular sides, regardless of those sides positions in the actual political spectrum; i.e. someone that believes liberals and conservatives should work together and compromise in order to not be too left or too right, despite both of those ideologies being inherently far right wing.

I.e. "let's listen to what Nazis have to say and give them a place in government"

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How does one figure that out? I've seen Harris supporters generally called centrists, and centrists compared with nazis.

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This comic is mocking a specific kind of "centrist" who isn't actually centrist at all.

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Centrism is the range of political ideologies that exist between left-wing politics and right-wing politics on the left–right political spectrum. It is associated with moderate politics, including people who strongly support moderate policies and people who are not strongly aligned with left-wing or right-wing policies.

The issues described in the comic/thread is that when you have one 'extreme' calling for the removal of rights/the lives of one group, and their opposite 'extreme' is calling to not do that, Centrists ask for some middle ground that cannot exist. You call the top right panel a ridiculous strawman, but go into any thread about immigration, women's rights, etc, and you will see (slightly less hyperbolic most of the time) comments that line up with that panel. What's the Centrist reaction to abortion bans? Partial bans. So all the Right has to do is ask for the entirety of something (abortion ban, force striking workers back to work, etc) and Centrists will give them part of what they want.

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lol thanks, and that's actually not surprising.

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That US politics has screwed up definitions of left and right, making the cartoon meaningless when applied to it.

Majorllama

I don't consider myself a centrist, but I do consider myself between the two parties currently.

I don't like the "both sides are wrong" mentality often associated with centrists. I don't think I am inherently better than either side. I think I am disillusioned by both sides.

I was a Leftist/Democrat for the majority of my life. Then at some point ~8-9 years ago saw the pipeline that leads to radicalized righty thinking and said "fuck that" but when I turned around and looked back on my old party critically I also didn't want to walk back through that door either.

Basically I think both "sides" need to shut up and stop slinging poop at each other. Occasionally you need to listen to the other side. Neither one is always right or always wrong. Some of the moderates from either side can admit this and they hang out in the middle ish with me. But most people just sprint farther to either side when their ideas are challenged.

But since everyone has this "us vs them" mentality over every little thing I don't see communication or collaboration getting any better going forward.

Iceblade

Yup, fact is a majority of people in thd US agree on many of the most important issue, yet the governing structure seeks to "otherize" people from each other as much as possible in order to prevent meaningful discourse and foster division.

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Okay, I'm Canadian, but let's play ball:

Republicans (right-wing) want to ban abortion.

Democrats (*left-wing) want to not ban abortion.

What's the Centrist solution here? Is it... some bans on abortion by any chance?

(*I'm aware they're basically right-of-centre at this point, but not wanting to ban abortion is a 'left' stance.)