This world is turning out less like the movie Idiocracy and more like the series Continuum.

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Our ancestors had intelligence in spades. They figured out an insane amount of stuff just to survive;

The idea of "surviving" doesn't even come into play in the evaluation of other species. Stupid as hell species survive for thousands of years on Earth, that's how conducive it is to life. You seem to have some unfounded civilized cavemen POV on our ancestors when really we're still all apes + advanced language.

The dawn of civilization wasn't us going from some lone person survival style steam game where we came into the world solo dolo in a pair of underwear.

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The apocalyptic scenario depicted in the movie is suggested to be brought about by failing to encourage the correct couples to reproduce. Implying that certain people for certain reasons are unworthy because their progeny are not suitable stewards of the planet.

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You know how you can choose to pay attention in class and do the work and ask for help when needed? If you don’t do any if that you’ll end up dumb and that is a result if your choices

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Setting aside the ableism of your reply, it still in no way relates to how intelligence is treated in the movie that is being discussed.

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Dumb isn’t ableist really. It used to refer to mute people but it hasn’t been used for that purpose in decades. Nice try at another bullshit claim. You like those don’t you?

You misunderstood the first scene completely to the point where I wonder if your sensitivity to this bit is because of your own perspective on where you sit intellectually or financially. You can decide on your own how much of that is the result of your educational choices.

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I'm going to have to go watch the movie again, but I don't recall any message that the state created (or failed to stop) the "idiotization" of the populace.

The overarching message seemed to blame rampant consumerism, not evolutionary pressure.

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The fact that nine people m people think that intelligence is actually a highly inheritable trait is worrying.

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Nah, Idiocracy somehow got to 2505 with a livable Earth. We are not on that track.

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Do you have a link? I don't think I'm finding the right Infinite Jest.

Ech

Lol. "You're dumb and poor". What an informative reply. Thanks for clearing that up.

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You really have trouble understanding things if that's your take away from my comment. I never concluded that you are poor or stupid but Im leaning towards you not being a strong reader based on the skills you demonstrated today.

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No, it wasn't. The implication was that the smart people didn't procreate as much as the stupid people, and that generation after generation saw the intelligence of the species go down.

Worth had nothing to do with it.

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The "smart" people keep waiting and waiting. It's not being forced on them...

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Yeah, the overall plot of the show is that people who are perceived as terrorists are often liberation fighters with a nasty edge, and it’s hard tell the difference between evil and righteousness sometimes. The narrative perspective shifts and changes and so do your sympathies with the characters. It is a harsh critique of runaway, capitalism, but not necessarily fully anti-capitalist or pro communist anything. It ends up with a pretty centrist message in some ways.

It’s great to see Vancouver acting as Vancouver, both future and present, pretty rare considering how much is being shot there.

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As Gramsci pointed out you need broad coalitions between key groups like educators and bureaucrats, but it has to also extend to radical action groups as allies with some social insulation between them to manage public morale and maintain an alliance.

It’s interesting what is going on in Syria right now.

Ech

Choice to have a baby ≠ choice to "be dumb"

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Good point, but I meant more the general civilization rather than the timeline.

Ech

I wonder if your sensitivity to this bit is because of your own perspective on where you sit intellectually or financially

Literally what you said. Feel free to clarify if that's not what you meant.

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Choice to not have baby = choice to let dumb people out-procreate smart people = more dumb people

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And, returning to the original question - How exactly is that treating individual intelligence as a choice and not a genetic trait?