At @Vivaldi , we make browsers. Powerful browsers, with more functionality than others, but still browsers.

[jon@social.vivaldi.net]

@indutny @Vivaldi

Yes, we are still funded in the same way as before. We have also opened up for people to donate.

[hobs@mstdn.social]

@jon
And based in Norway (EU, GDPR). Don't think other browser companies can say that either.
@Vivaldi

[jon@social.vivaldi.net]

@hobs @Vivaldi

Indeed.

[refurbished@mastodon.social]

@jon @Vivaldi
But for how long?
Not afraid not to jump on the #AI train to nowhere land?

[languageman1@social.vivaldi.net]

@jon @Vivaldi

Hopefully you'll be independent for years to come.

[boab@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@jon @Vivaldi your grouping of fanes is the best. Now you visit my feed, can you tell me how you do make money?

[fablog@mastodon.social]

@jon @Vivaldi What is the best way to report bugs in Vivaldi?

[cubethoughts@mastodon.social]

@jon @Vivaldi I use Firefox because I worry about browser engine monoculture, especially controlled by Google.

Every major endeavor requires resources. I'm not sure I approve with what Mozilla is doing but I understand they need to find a revenue source. What is the revenue source of Vivaldi, current and future?

[afuerstenau@troet.cafe]

@jon @Vivaldi @PeterSommerlad nice to know what you don‘t do to earn money but what do you do to keep the lights on?

[tux0r@layer8.space]

@jon @Vivaldi Why isn’t it on OpenBSD yet?

[dummzeuch@mastodon.social]

@jon @Vivaldi I used to be a big fan of Opera, back when it had its own rendering engine and included a rather good email client. I even bought it. (Yes kids, in the olden days you paid for software with money, not your data.)
I was really disappointed when they dropped their own engine. The next thing I read about you was that you started your own browser: Vivaldi but unfortunately also based on chrome.

[albonycal@fosstodon.org]

@jon @Vivaldi But unlike that other company, you just make a wrapper around chromium.
Not defending them btw, just saying.

[jon@social.vivaldi.net]

@albonycal @Vivaldi

So you are saying that our team of 57 just makes a wrapper? Have you tried Vivaldi at all?

[albonycal@fosstodon.org]

@jon @Vivaldi I have tried it, it is certainly less complicated than maintaining a browser engine.

[jon@social.vivaldi.net]

@albonycal @Vivaldi

True. I have done so in the past as well. But the effort the team puts in is pretty massive.

Did you spend enough time with it to try all the features? We have a built in mail client, calendar and feed reader and we provide more flexibility and functionality than any other browser out there.

[jon@social.vivaldi.net]

@Refurbished @Vivaldi

Why should we "jump on the AI train"? Our users are not asking for it and we do not want to either.

[jon@social.vivaldi.net]

@boab @Vivaldi

Thanks. It is all described here:

https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/

[jon@social.vivaldi.net]

@CubeThoughts @Vivaldi

You can read all about it here:

https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/

[jon@social.vivaldi.net]

@afuerstenau @Vivaldi @PeterSommerlad

You can read all about it here:

https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/

[jon@social.vivaldi.net]

@tux0r @Vivaldi

I guess we have not had so much requests for it. We try to make Vivaldi available everywhere we can, but for us to add a platform is a major undertaking.