Microsoft recently wrote that TPM 2.0 is a "a non-negotiable standard for the future of Windows." This pretty much confirms it won't back down on its hardware requirements for Windows 11, an OS that is seriously struggling to gain new users (~35% of Wi...
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@killyourfm No he’s right. I know people who refuse to install updates on their completely-within-service devices. Normies are somewhere between “don’t care about security updates” and “actively do not want them”
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Jonathan Fredericksonreplied to Seasons of Jason last edited by
@killyourfm This makes community outreach and education just that much more important. A lot of people can't afford to buy new computers for a software upgrade, and it'll generate tons of unnecessary e-waste if we don't repurpose those old devices
I've been thinking about running a class at my local makerspace on fixing old laptops and installing Linux on them. The area we're in is pretty low-income, so especially if we can find a good way to reach local folks I think it could be pretty good
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@killyourfm The problem I keep facing is "Linux cannot run this one singluar application, therefore the entire OS is garbage and should never be used for anything."
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Seasons of Jasonreplied to Jonathan Frederickson last edited by
@jfred What an awesome idea! Will you consider sharing the course outline somewhere? I bet other people could adapt it for their own communities.
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@rogueren Yea that's frustrating, when in reality the OS they're using right now is garbage and should only be used for that one app
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I think the average computer user thinks about upgrading their PC the same way I think about upgrading my refrigerator: not at all until I open the door and everything's dead.
See also: when I worked in IT I knew a staggering number of people who didn't know their phone or tablet could be shut off or restarted.
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Jonathan Fredericksonreplied to Seasons of Jason last edited by
@killyourfm Oh absolutely! Though I'll be the first one to admit that I have too many project ideas to follow through with all of them in practice
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@ElsaPreme What in the world. Why? That Ryzen 2700U is perfectly capable!
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Seasons of Jasonreplied to Jonathan Frederickson last edited by
@jfred This is HIGHLY relatable. I can sympathize!
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Seasons of Jasonreplied to Veronica Explains last edited by
@vkc @danirabbit @JoeRess This is eye-opening and sobering and I'm not sure if I want a whiskey or want to go on a nonstop Linux evangelism crusade until October 2025.
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Seasons of Jasonreplied to Scotsbear 🏴🐻 last edited by
@Uraael Please do let me know if you have any awesome brainstorms. I think one of the largest hurdles is simply choice paralysis new Linux users are faced with.
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Kaze :veripawed3:replied to Seasons of Jason last edited by
@killyourfm I feel like the discourse around Linux vs Windows has always been "Windows bad, you dumb for using it". Clearly this helps no one. Familiarity is comfortable, maybe we can spin it in a way that acknowledges the good times they had on windows, and Linux is, while not being Windows, can be a great tool too.
I'm not a writer, but I feel compelled to help. What can we do as a community
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Scotsbear 🏴🐻replied to Seasons of Jason last edited by
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Choice paralysis, eh? On that one I've often thought a simple carefully structured questionnaire/website might actually work wonders. e.g.:
Command line or GUI? GUI
focuses on Distros with great UI tools
Does the thought of not having any updates to anything for six months freak you out? Yes
*filters out fixed-release Distros*
DE's. Do you like tweaking things?" No:
*narrows to Gnome-focused Distros, or Distros with Gnome spins*
Aaaand so on. There's got to be a way to do that that is easy to understand and doesn't bamboozle folks.
Perhaps we even start Grading distros according to certain criteria, so they can display a CERTIFIED AWESOME FOR NEW USERS! badge, or something.
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Fritjof :emacs: :ardour:replied to Bloodaxe last edited by
@bloodaxe @killyourfm my parents (78 and 80) do the same, and both made the switch about for years ago. They are in no way technical, but never had an issue.
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Seasons of Jasonreplied to Kaze :veripawed3: last edited by
@kaze And I'm a writer on a platform that reaches millions, but unsure what to do. We can definitely help each other!
See, I know what *I* can do. I can educate. I can promote great distros and FOSS alternatives. I can write installation guides. I can show people how great gaming is on Linux.
And while that may help, am I just be adding to the noise? To the wildly differing opinions about where new users should start? Contributing to the choice paralysis?
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Seasons of Jasonreplied to Seasons of Jason last edited by
@kaze I don't want to act alone, if that makes sense. We need a movement, not a thousand disparate voices.
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Tobias Frischreplied to Scotsbear 🏴🐻 last edited by
@Uraael @killyourfm I think we really need to tackle the angle that staying with Windows implies Microsoft will always keep the option to shutdown your systems support and force you to buy new hardware, whether the responsible change is reasonable or arbitrary. So from the perspective of reliability, Microsoft has essentially started to sell E-waste as software by not offering an upgrade path. That makes any free software the more reliable option long term.
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Seasons of Jasonreplied to Fritjof :emacs: :ardour: last edited by
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Fritjof :emacs: :ardour:replied to Seasons of Jason last edited by
@killyourfm @bloodaxe Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop
