tech spaces have a serious misinformation problem when it comes to mac os
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@[email protected] macOS certainly is not perfect by any means but it is a reliable operating system and some of the disinformation is just like "what are you talking about". MacOS has really good font aliasing for instance, I really like the unified feel of the desktop, it feels more cohesive than let's say linux where you have GTK, QT and all these other gui libraries with different styles.
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@puppygirlhornypost2 @zebo how would you describe the difference here?
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@puppygirlhornypost2 @zebo haven't used bsd much, but when i tried it out it felt like linux in terms of the CLI which is kinda all that mattered to me. doesnt matter that system level things are different cause i don't use either of those often on desktop so it's a non-issue. but i assume your comment is about more general things than that so i'd like to know!
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@[email protected] @[email protected] I would describe the difference as... Well, you know how windows just has this feel? Like, Windows Forms for instance you can just tell it was made with that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_(user_interface) (I forget the current interface but I'll use aqua as an example). Everything kinda just feels like it was made in Apple's style. Have you ever used something like Dolphin in a KDE/Plasma desktop environment? How it sort of sticks out, or god forbid you download something like discord which uses electron and has its own styling completely independent of the operating system? It's a lot more obvious and it makes it feel a lot less seamless. UI/UX is a major part of operating systems even if the nerdier people want to go "well i don't care! i use cli, i theme gtk and qt to be the same". It fucks with people, it makes things feel less complete. I mean, if I have something like Microsoft Excel open right next to let's say windirstat which isn't really designed in the same sort of ui style as excel they feel completely different.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] As an iOS user, the enforcement of Apple's widgets and overall ui/ux flow to be accepted into the app store... there's a big difference between how android apps can feel linuxy with different ui choices but how iOS apps feel more uniform. Discord still doesn't really fit in the iOS "feel" but I'd say Apollo (the reddit app I used before reddit's api pricing changes) felt like it was made by Apple.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] Most *nix systems do not have that sort of unified feel. Something like GNU radio, or GNU Image Manipulation Program feels vastly different from Krita. It's not just about the work flow.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] a major difference between the BSDs and Linux relates to how storage devices are exposed. FreeBSD does not have any such concept of a "block" device. MacOS does not expose devices in the same way that you'd expect a linux system to. MacOS for instance, treats /dev/sda differently. Imagine if linux devices were mounted on a first come first serve basis. If the drive is mounted by the system or is otherwise in use you can't just access it. Like you can't just rm -rf /dev/sda the raw device if it's currently mounted by the system. Just one of many changes. System Integrity Protection (SIP) is also quite neat, although it's limited by the fact it's locked to Apple's keys.
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@puppygirlhornypost2 @zebo oh okay, got it. swift ui is gorgeous though and has a billion apps so it's probably not as much of a problem as it is on windows where Nothing uses the windows app sdk? unless ppl are expecting their fave apps from linux to look cohesive with macos which is obv not going to happen
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@[email protected] @[email protected] nah people expect the linux apps to sort of follow the same style. macos is very uniform and does the entire desktop environment feel the best while linux it feels like a bunch of random assorted apps
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@puppygirlhornypost2 @zebo honestly when i migrated to macos for a bit in 2020, thinking of it as another enterprise unix descendant with its own idiosyncrasies helped a lot
yes the tools are similar, and generally your knowledge of linux will carry over to various unix flavors, but you gotta expect differences
ui isnt diy, there are HIGs everyone making for the platform is expected to conform to, there's no ability to pick and choose system modules, you either accept the whole package or you dont use it at all
