"The color blue didn't exist in ancient times"
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"The color blue didn't exist in ancient times"
I. hate. this. myth.
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Pondering my dashb-orbreplied to Hrefna (DHC) last edited by
@hrefna TRUE! The first recorded reference was actually musical, a song from Paris itself! Eiffel in c. 65 AD
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1) They perceived blue just fine. Eyes haven't changed overmuch.
2) Things were blue. Physics hasn't changed in that time either.
3) They sometimes lacked a specific word for it. But that's like saying we didn't perceive 93E9BE until Benjamin Moore (or whoever it was) came along and gave it the name seafoam green.
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Hrefna (DHC)replied to Pondering my dashb-orb last edited by
@arichtman Anything else you want to mansplain incorrectly to me while you are here?
ḫsbḏ (𓐍𓋴𓃀𓆓𓈒𓏥), ḫsbḏ iryt, and jrtjw date back to the 3rd millennia BCE or before, then there's ỉqnủ (𐎛𐎖𐎐𐎜) as well. The Ishtar Gate had not a single green brick in sight.
Just because a culture indexes their colors differently and tends to focus more on value and saturation rather than hue doesn't mean they have any difficulty perceiving or differentiating the color.
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@arichtman You can start here for more information: https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=17970
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@hrefna @arichtman “Eiffel in c. 65 AD”
Pretty sure that was a joke
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Hrefna (DHC) last edited by [email protected]
@hrefna @arichtman plus, the bible (around the same time) mentions the words "blue" (כחול) and "light blue" (תכול, תכלת; different colors in Hebrew) multiple times.
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@hrefna thank you!!
yea, it really undermines the opportunity to explore perception and all of the non linguistic parts of brain and mind function (which I’d like most of it really). Colour perception alone can be a wonderful thing to learn about. But instead people get stuck on fairly arbitrary cultural artefacts as though they’re everything that happens inside of us (which is kinda ironic too I guess).
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@hrefna Is it conclusively proven that nobody had a name for sky and the sea color?
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@hrefna @arichtman pretty much common knowledge that the color blue was discovered in 1987, and that the group of scientists who found it later went on to become the blue man group.