Where do people who self-host their websites, mastodon instances etc. actually host things these days?
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@datarama The @codeenigma instance is on AWS, not the cheapest option but reliable. Why are Hetzner villains? Just curious, think i missed a memo...
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I do most of my hosting thru a nice provider in Finland called #Upcloud . They have been very good to me for several years.
For some things, I also use a Swiss company called #Infomaniaks ... also good, though their marketing push can be a bit, well, maniacal at times.
Generally speaking, any EU-based company should be good (what's wrong with Hetzner these days?), and particularly, there are many good, reliable companies out of Iceland, the Netherlands, and Switzerland.
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@OpenBSDAms is perfect from this. It isn't owned by a larger entity - but one person doing it out of love and passion. You can find the backstory in multiple places, including this talk given at EuroBSDcon.
That person is not me - but someone whom I trust with my life.
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@h3artbl33d @kitten_tech @datarama :flan_heart:
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@kitten_tech In a few years I'll probably be able to get fibre too. Rollout is just pretty patchy here.
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@greg_harvey @codeenigma The last couple of weeks I saw a lot of people here saying they'd arbitrarily shut down accounts. There was this, for example: https://ursal.zone/@Ursalzona/112259839960115911
I also saw (but haven't saved links) some accusations of them enabling homophobic abuse, but I don't know the up and down of that.
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@ErictheCerise Hetzner: The last couple of weeks I saw a lot of people here saying they'd arbitrarily shut down accounts. There was this, for example: https://ursal.zone/@Ursalzona/112259839960115911
I also saw (but haven't saved links) some accusations of them enabling homophobic abuse, but I don't know the up and down of that.
(I phrased it as a question because I don't *know* if they're villains now, that was just the tenor of the conversation on the bits of the fediverse I frequent the last few weeks.)
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@monospace The last couple of weeks I saw a lot of people here saying they'd arbitrarily shut down accounts. There was this, for example: https://ursal.zone/@Ursalzona/112259839960115911. I also saw (but haven't saved links) some accusations of them enabling homophobic abuse, but I don't know the up and down of that.
(My own experiences with Hetzner were positive, but also about 20 years ago.)
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Huh. That's ... disconcerting.
Watching the whole world swing Right is scary as hell, but watching Germany do it, is just some next-level shit.
I hope it's as simple as an evil Corporate "save money" decision, and not some moral position.
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@monospace This is why I phrased it as a question, though I can see now (where I'm not quite as tired as I was yesterday evening; I'd had a terribly rough day) that it reads like I'm making a statement about Hetzner and a question about DO.
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@monospace FTR, I asked about those two specific companies because they're the only ones I have actual experience with myself - and the last couple of weeks I've seen a lot of people here on fedi raging about both; I don't know the up and down of half of it.
(My old uni mates and I rented a box on Hetzner for some shared projects for a while after we graduated, and I've used DO to host some minor things more recently.)