You receive a call on your phone.The caller says they're from your bank and they're calling about a suspected fraud.
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@Edent Another reason to ignore calls from people who aren't in my contact list.
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Maria Langer | 📝 🎬 ⚒️🛥️replied to Terence Eden on last edited by
You know, it’s hard to get scammed by phone if your phone doesn’t even ring for callers not in your address book.
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PhDog 🇮🇪replied to Terence Eden on last edited by [email protected]
@Edent
A two-men-in-the-middle attack. Old-skool but clever. -
Social engineering… common con man practices… now with electronic means…
I had the bank calling me about an account, how can we ever trust this anymore now…
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@Edent If I received the call, it's a scam, regardless of how convincing. It's pretty much unheard of that anyone ever calls from a bank due to suspected fraud.
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@Edent I always hang up and call the bank directly. No matter what, you can't trust the contact initiated to you
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A tactic not too dissimilar to this caught me out. No financial loss though.
My only excuse was a super high temperature at the time and I was anticipating a call.
Right circumstances. That's all it takes 🫤
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@simonzerafa
Yup. You have to be lucky every time; scammers only need to be lucky once. -
Harro van der Klauwreplied to Terence Eden on last edited by
@Edent yeah, I would never do that over the phone, I'll tell them I'll hop on my bike to the local bank first thing.
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@Edent I think I might have had pause for thought at “12 digits of your card number” but then I’ve watched/listening to a *lot* of scam baiting videos and adjacent podcasts. I simply do not answer phone calls.
I also don’t have any money to steal
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@Edent i would get scammed by that damn those scammer are getting elaborate
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@gadgetoid
Come on man! Get more money - those scammers have families to feed! -
@Edent Rule two of answering the phone (or emails, texts). The person making the call has to identify themselves, not the recipient. Rule one is that all businesses calling, mailing or texting you are after your money in some way and are likely to con or defraud you.
When my bank has called me in the past and I insisted on checking. Their procedure was to alternate characters of my password with me. Otherwise I refuse to go on, which pisses off shedloads of telemarketers. But keeps me safe
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@DziadekMick
They did prove who they are. They sent a legitimate notification through the official app.
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@Edent The bank should display the phone number of the caller they are speaking with, asking the user specifically if this is their phone number.
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@chebra
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Andrzej Stamburskireplied to Terence Eden on last edited by
@Edent The phone is a very poor way for authentication. It's not an issue of wording or implementation. The mobile phone will always be very poor method of authentication, just because there will be always 1000 ways to fake things on it. The problem is, banks push mobile phone for authentication because it is cheap for them.
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Terence Edenreplied to Andrzej Stamburski on last edited by
@stamberry but this isn't a fake thing. It is a legitimate alert, from the authentic bank app.
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@Edent They can also spoof the number on your card, as use it as 'proof' they are the bank.
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@[email protected] Another good reason to say no to proprietary banking apps. My bank account can only be accessed using a physical non-internet connected 2FA key device.
