once again I fucking hate dtolnay for blocking reflection in rust so that his macro work doesn't become obsolete
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Pumpkin Amberreplied to d@nny "disc@" mc² last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] At least with C++ it's more public how everyone else can get shafted. There's no discourse instance or place where you can pretend to influence the committee. NixOS and Rust on the otherhand... now those are just extra insufferable because you watch how valid criticism is disregarded, censored and hidden away
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@aud everything about his actions there was incredibly obnoxious. I've refused to use serde ever since on principle.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] fucking jon ringer and his fucking apologists willing to bend over backwards and screw the entire nix community so that the little war profiteer blood money birthday boy doesn't get his fees fees hurt that people might include non-cishetwhitemen.
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@aud @jonny @hipsterelectron we attest that we witnessed this and that it matches up with what we know.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] meanwhile the C++ committee will just not humor you at all. They'll just ignore you
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I'm so glad I get to use regex in a rust macro rather than using reflection. Wow, great. It would be such a shame if I only needed to learn rust to do basic shit in rust. Can't have that now.
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@[email protected] I'm actively using it in my project and I hate it
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] I fucking hate Nix because it's such a good idea, I love NixOS and the leadership is just going to make it die
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Irenes (many)replied to d@nny "disc@" mc² last edited by
@hipsterelectron @aud @jonny yeah fundamentally, writing and popularizing a language and building out community around it is immensely time consuming and must be taken slowly, but now that lifetimes exist as a concept other languages could be written around them someday. maybe that should be the 10-to-20-year play
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] they were so close to doing the right thing by tossing Ringer out on his ass. Then the last thing I saw, they posted this thing about how now they were going to have weekly checkins to make sure poor old Ringer didn't have his feelings hurt and that he approved of everything going on and I noped the fuck out.
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@hipsterelectron @aud @jonny but it's a mistake to think that simply starting a new community solves these problems - separatism as a strategy doesn't work because these are human problems and we bring humans with us. at best, separatism can buy some breathing room for a coherent approach to community leadership and governance to win out.
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@hipsterelectron @aud @jonny the hard part, no matter what, is still actually getting everyone to agree on such an approach and then follow through on it.
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@aud @jonny @hipsterelectron oh the racist militarist accellerationists are bored with the conflict they started and are perpetuating? too damn bad
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@aud @jonny @hipsterelectron yes we dug very deep into it at the time, which is why we're able to bear witness. it was not easy parsing through everything, even as someone on the inside.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] it takes money and time, something a lot of people who have ethics and are interested in community are seemingly without for some strange reason.
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@aud not that we're aware of. one reason it makes such a solid sinecure is that the thing it is, is inherently really messy inside.
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@aud that isn't quite the right word, but we don't think there is an existing word for that strategy of using a piece of critical infrastructure as a way to assert personal power
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] I appreciate you saying I have the right of it, basically; I followed along with it very closely because I follow ThePhD and when I heard about it, my hairs raised as it seemed like classic textbook discrimination (the kind 'easily' hand-waved away by people who want to ignore it) and kept following it... and watching in disappointment as people who seemed 'nice' did their best to continue letting it happen.
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@[email protected] I can feel my spite gland being activated, and now I'm tempted to see if I CAN re-write without serde. I really, really hate it.
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@aud we're working on our own parsing framework as we speak but it is not and will never be a drop-in replacement. we don't actually like the thing serde does, heh.
