kinda confused because this seems like a pro-"AI" license https://discuss.systems/@dev/113299269159600892
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d@nny "disc@" mc²replied to d@nny "disc@" mc² last edited by
@aud i like dev but he does work for microsoft and he should take it upon himself to be more cognizant of these distinctions that's what i would do when i advocated internally against the twitter autocropper
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@[email protected] It's interesting, at least, to see someone working for Microsoft even publicly suggest the idea of a license that can't be used for open-season ML model training, assuming it's in good faith (which, seems to be). When I was there people were literally calling Bender, et al's work on stochastic parrots "outdated", if that tells you anything.
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@aud re "outdated" see the analogous legal framing of existing regs as "outdated" https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/113336488582299874
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d@nny "disc@" mc²replied to d@nny "disc@" mc² last edited by
@aud they call it outdated to denigrate it because their technology is no match for our ancient magicks
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@[email protected] yep. Spot on.
I feel like with the legal stuff companies tend to exploit the general population's perception/understanding of the law against them and say "oh no, our lawyers totally say this is okay/isn't okay/works/doesn't work" to influence the things we say outside of the work environment. "Oh, well, the company lawyers said this law doesn't work and so we need blah blah blah". -
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@aud sidenote it's so incredibly fucking funny that the OSI defn of "open source" "AI" does not require open data. you had literally one fucking job dude
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Asta [AMP]replied to d@nny "disc@" mc² last edited by [email protected]
@[email protected] wait, they really define it that way? as in, the data doesn't need to be... what the fuck.
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@[email protected] good ol self-regulatory capture.
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@[email protected] I'm gonna write a license that's just GPL or whatever but it also says that if you're a corporation you legally have to go onto the top 25 most popular forms of communication and say your company sucks and is a garbage sucking fucko and provide a link to a video of your CEO saying it.
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@[email protected] go ahead, incorporate this into your "supply chain". do it.
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@aud to add insult to injury they even couch it in the language used in copyleft licensing you cannot convince me this isn't an op https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/113007085938489376
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Asta [AMP]replied to d@nny "disc@" mc² last edited by
@[email protected] oh jesus, yeah, I totally forgot about this. Yeah. "after long deliberation and co-design sessions" == "the industry wanted this goal and it took us a while to figure out how to sell it"
