Any security/privacy experts have any thoughts about Apple’s Private Relay service through their iCloud+ subscription?Good?Bad? Irrelevant?I won’t be getting rid of my iCloud account anytime soon, so unless there is some other compelling reason not to,...
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸wrote last edited by [email protected]
Any security/privacy experts have any thoughts about Apple’s Private Relay service through their iCloud+ subscription?
Good?
Bad?
Irrelevant?
I won’t be getting rid of my iCloud account anytime soon, so unless there is some other compelling reason not to, it seems worth using it.
Edit: Ironically, I couldn’t send this post from my local server because, I think, of my local DNS so… Private Relay off now.
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moonwalkerreplied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
@chris the description of this sounds a lot like a vpn. personally I'd rather use an actual vpn from someone who knows what they are doing.
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Blender Dumbass ( J.Y.Amihud )replied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
@chris Apple has a track record of talking about privacy when it suits them. But then going complete 180 when the pressure is strong from the other side.
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@moonwalker @chris With a normal VPN, the VPN provider knows your identity and your internet traffic. Private relay is like a selective VPN that only covers some traffic, and is engineered so that your identity and your internet traffic can't be associated, and sites you visit can't do traffic analysis. (Apple does have people competent to design this, it's pretty clever.)
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Dan Rileyreplied to Blender Dumbass ( J.Y.Amihud ) last edited by
@blenderdumbass @chris Apple has made significant concessions to the Chinese government. Other than that they seem to have a pretty good record of trying to make it impossible for anyone--including Apple themselves--to retrieve personal information.
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@dan131riley @chris I bet it took them a bit of thinking before putting this to practice, but they still know your identity if we are talking about a typical apple user. they even know your phone number. it will be useful for some people who are "apple only" in their iphones. for me it would be useless even if I had an apple id
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@moonwalker @chris Apple knows the identity making the request (of course), but they don't know the contents of the request. The CDN that actually fulfills the request doesn't know the ID that requested it. So the ID and the traffic are disassociated in a way that's designed to defeat traffic analysis.
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@dan131riley @chris it obfuscates stuff on the network side only. safari is still vulnerable to other methods of tracking. I'd say that one would have to put a heck of a lot trust into apple in order to use it
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to moonwalker last edited by
@moonwalker @dan131riley any more trust than any VPN service?