Let's discuss how to efficiently promote Lemmy to potential new joiners

freamon

Oh, yeah. It's still ongoing. You can track the progress at https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/app/api/alpha/routes.py if you like. At the bottom of that page, things with a 'Stage 1' are what's left to do.

The remaining stuff is mostly to do with chat / notifications. Once done, a basic app could be released, and then improved to include stuff that's missing (things like uploading an image to post or a comment, and viewing reports)

EDIT: sorry, this was meant to be a reply to another comment. Still getting the hang of NodeBB. Now will this edit work ...

Blaze (he/him)

Great, thanks!

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I missed another F, for Fun.

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The thing I hate worst about Lemmy is that a lot of people are dickheads about their opinion, which often is barely different from the persons' opinions you see them aggressively shitting on. In other cases the opinions are pretty different but start with the same basic premise, yet some users see no common ground at all. It's become really disheartening honestly. There are probably more than 30 users like that which I had to block for my own sanity

Blaze (he/him)

It's human nature. Mods can help with that, so it's also community dependent.

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I get the frustration with not having a lot of active posters in a community despite diligence in posting and promotion on [email protected]. I’ve had the same frustration trying to operate [email protected] the last two seasons. I am not going to keep it up this offseason

Blaze (he/him)

Sorry to hear. How are the NFL communities doing on Lemmy in general? I'm a bit active on [email protected] (the other one), it's moderately active but still niche.

Aa!

This is what I've been saying. I think it should go even further and give admins a default block list of users.

A lot of folks talk about how Lemmy became useable after they spent hours (or sometimes a month) blocking the right communities and users, but most social media users don't want to work that hard, they just want to start doomscrolling.

Optional

The best promotion is to be awesome.

}Lemmy, is awesome (y/n)?: _y

Blaze (he/him)

give admins a default block list of users.

Usually obvious trolls are banned on their instance, so for everyone. There is also synchronization between admins to ban people on instances that admins can't be contacted

db0

Already suggested

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5088

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5087

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We don't need to reach 1M MAU, but having 100k would already be a nice improvement

Definitely agreed with this. And less always (understandably) angry political posters, more escapers that want to chat about movies, games etc. It becomes like that snake eating itself because people that want a break from real life come here and see nothing but the same 24 news cycle as everywhere else. And then, speaking for myself, searching up certain niche communities and finding them either non-existent or with 3 posts from 1 and a half years ago.

I've been thinking of porting a couple of my old review posts over here from my banned but not yet closed Reddit account. Just so that, for example, the next time someone visits the Ghibli community there'll be 4 posts instead of 3.

And the Sonic communities are pretty disappointing too, considering I'm always seeing it mentioned in the wild these days. Makes me think (or hope) that there's a lot of people like me wishing there was more activity in these areas.

Reddit is sadly still unbeaten in searching up a TV show that you enjoy and finding an entire community built around it. And those communities never took a lot of members. So it shouldn't be impossible here.

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This is the best platform for constant live updates about what the people you don't like are up to. Then there's articles about everything that's wrong in the world and also some memes - mostly political.

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The hard part is that for some people, News and Politics is actually what they are looking for. Others want only Memes and never not that, while still others want content types like Gaming or Arts and Crafts, etc.

So when Categories of Communities and/or Topic areas is implemented, this issue will be solved, but until then these are merely a best guess about what an "average" user desires to see, rather than allowing them to choose their own experience.

db0

Sure. The suggestion I did for the devs is just to have another tab "suggested" which will be a feed of the preselected comms from the admins. Anyone can easily switch away from it

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And then only with deeper knowledge of how the Fediverse functions under the hood - like how "instances" relate to "communities" and specific moderator names, especially when working from a remote account on a different instance than the community structure... Hey, where are you going?

Blaze (he/him)

selection of 20 non-political communities: https://feddit.uk/post/22376629

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You forgot about the Linux memes

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I'll mention my experience with a server from that list (that I won't name)...

The server worked most of the time but federation kept breaking. The server was rather small. Since you use Lemmy from your home instance, this meant that only a few local communities showed any activity and this was a very low amount of activity. This would go on for days or even well over a week before things got better for a while and then everything started to break again.

It is one thing for a server to just go away. You then clearly know that something is wrong and you can migrate over to another server. It is another thing for the server to generally be online all the time with it just messing up in such a way as to make the whole Lemmy ecosystem seem rather dead.

Things would have been easier if most of the communities I want to interact with were on the same server as my account. The other server, with federation issues, was only home to 5 % of the communities I was following which left 95 % of the communities I wanted to follow as not updated due to federation issues.

There isn't a clear indication of which servers are working great with a proven track record of working great as opposed to "zombie instances" not federating correctly or other instances which are moments away from randomly shutting down. The point is that I feel like my account anywhere will be able to receive and send information throughout the whole Lemmy network or sites. This reduces the concept of federation a bit down towards needing to have an account on a well known working server simply because account migration is such a headache. I can then interact with communities without issues (hosted on well working servers) but I can easily change my community subscriptions as I want to.

One thing that may help for someone is to try and see what communities they want to participate in. If the communities they primarily find interesting are in Lemmy.world then they likely should have an account there to ease any federation issues. The number of communities I follow here are 3 times larger than communities I follow with any other specific instance. This community subscription list is one I figured out when I was on "that other server" so it guided me here.

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This is the twitter and reddit ethos. Everyone is Super Smart and You Are Wrong Ha Ha.

On reddit you can find smaller communities where people are more normal and it's closer to having a discussion at a bar than it is going on to /r/politics or something.