Why should we be honest when noone else is
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I think there is a pretty marked difference between honesty and passivity that you're conflating here.
For missing the job interview that passed you for a punctual interviewer - I think it's fine to be honest in that situation but if it were me, I'd also blame myself for not leaving my house earlier to account for the traffic.
At the current job you could be honest AND active about standing up for yourself at work by providing evidence that you are one doing the work. There's no rule that says you can advocate for yourself without being honest.
As for reporting the minor hit and run - maybe it's because I live in a city, but if I wasn't the person getting hit, and the person wasn't injury beyond a scrape/bruise then I wouldn't have reported it. Honest to god, not my problem. I would only do it if the victim decides to prosecute the driver/instigator and was asking to me to be the witness, I wouldn't go out of my way to do it. Obviously if the scale of the accident was different - imagine something life threatening - then I would then report it, because then the person who caused the accident deserves to have consequences for their actions. And in that case even if I had to spend countless of hours in litigation, I would do it because it's the right thing to do, not because I need to be rewarded or thanked for it.
I could keep going down the list, but I guess the main point is, rules are written for a reason, but rules were also written by humans. Intrinsically, that means they are sometimes flawed, and it's a matter of using critical thinking and risk/reward assessment to determine when they should be followed or not.
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These are all pretty inflated, worst case scenarios. I won't say I've never told a white lie but I go by the old fashioned golden rule and do unto others. I do my best to treat other people with decency and respect (which includes being truthful mostly) and have by and large received that back in spades.
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Your second example is not honesty; it's cowardice.
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You're describing a very sad society.
Or maybe there's no such thing as sociaty, just individuals? Who knows
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Why should we return the shopping cart when no one else does?
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Holy shit I am not reading all that, especially when the first three paragraphs all describe the habits of someone who just acts like Mr Rodgers was too hardcore for him.
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I'm believe we attract relationships with people who are similar.
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Maybe I'm alone here but don't we all typically use our best judgement when deciding whether telling the truth vs "nudging" the truth will work out better and if it is even worth the moral dilemma?
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I think so. I don't think how act in these cases is a moral principle, poured in concrete, but really depends on the expected long-term outcome. And if that doesn't work out, that's when the learning happens.
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Sometimes just because it feels good to do the right thing and isn't much effort.
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You get it
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Because integrity
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That was a bubble bath with candles and wine thought.
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I politely disagree swirling a fine single malt
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I learned this as a kid at a grocery store. When you leave your cart by your car instead of returning it, it takes labor to collect the carts around the parking lot. That requires labor. That labor costs money to the company. That money gets passed on to you as a customer buying products.
The 30-45 seconds it takes to return your cart may seem inconvenient. Rinse, wash, repeat a thousand times in your life. Multiply that by millions of people nationwide across all grocery stores. That adds up.
Stop being lazy. It's not hard to return the cart. If we all did it, it would passively reduce labor costs.
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it takes labor to collect the carts
It's not about that. I was making a reference to the Shopping Cart Theory as a way of responding to the post.
potentially reduce price hikes on food
I admire your boundless optimism! I rather think we'd simply see richer grocery store owners if there were a sudden outbreak of common decency and everyone consistently returned the cart.
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It really isn't about optimism. I know prices would go up no matter what. But it does allow a bit more passive control without being a twat about leaving carts out.
I wasn't aware of the shopping cart theory. Thanks, now I have a name for my belief.
