I searched "snatcher sega cd" and google suggested "snatcher sega cd rom"
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@h0m54r no
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For reference since I didn't actually explain and clearly not everyone knows this:
"ROMs" are named like that because they're ROM dumps. Early pre-CD consoles used Read Only Memory chips to store the games, so to pirate the game you took that chip and dumped it, giving you a ROM Dump file. Stick that file onto an ((E)E)PROM or into an emulator, and you can play it without buying it. "ROM dumps" quickly got shortened to just "ROMs"
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PC games never (again, other than the weird PCjr) used ROM chips for games, they used floppy disks, type-in BASIC, or cassette tapes. None of those have "ROM dumps" as there's no ROM to dump, thus no "ROMs"
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later we got CDs (and DVDs, technically) for PC games, but those don't have "ROM dumps", they have "disc images" or "ISOs".
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and then eventually games went fully downloadable, so neither ROMs nor ISOs make sense: They're just sparkling warez
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but for a lot of people the word "ROMs" has always meant "pirated games" so they expanded it to all pirated games. You've got PS2 ROMs, you've got ROMs of steam games released this week, you've got ROMs of games that came on barcodes, which are many things but NOT ROMS.
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so it's technically incorrect but not linguistically incorrect. The word's general use has widened from the technical meaning.
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THIS DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE TO LIKE IT
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@foone I remember when in the mid-2000s if you wanted pirated things you searched Name ISO, I wonder why that fell out of style?
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Foone🏳️⚧️replied to Foone🏳️⚧️ last edited by [email protected]
I forgot to explain: The CD-ROM one is also weird.
They're called ISOs because the CD-ROM filesystem standard is ISO 9660, and that's ISO as in the International Organization for Standardization (ISO*).In a different world the file extension/file type would have been dot iso9660 and we'd... probably still be calling them ISOs, honestly, but DOS/Windows only supporting 3-character extensions at the time didn't help.
* blame the French. UTC stands for "Coordinated Universal Time", you know?"
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@Canageek nothing comes on CDs anymore?
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but yeah. over in the PC space, this stuff was always just warez. as in "softwares", but with a Z, so it's Kool.
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with multiple words for different specific types of pirated media (warez/isos/images/roms) it's no surprise the larger community settled on just one name.
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but since it's technically incorrect it does make my bloodpressure go up a little everytime I see it used wrong.
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Foone🏳️⚧️replied to Foone🏳️⚧️ last edited by [email protected]
although to be honest, ISO was misused a lot too.
an "ISO" is technically a specific type of dump of a CD-ROM, it's the dumped ISO-9660 filesystem into a linear file.But that filesystem doesn't contain any CD audio, those are separate. So more likely you'll see a bin/cue pair with some audio tracks, if the game uses CD-audio (and many did!)
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@foone what do you mean, roms are what you get when you image a floppy with the tab open
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Foone🏳️⚧️replied to Foone🏳️⚧️ last edited by [email protected]
so often have I downloaded "ISOs" (from Highly Legitimate Sources (says the retrogaming researcher/hacker)) and instead of an ISO file I have one of the 800 different disc image format that aren't actually ISOs
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@foone a streamer I like pronounces Warez like Juarez and it fucks me up every time he does it. I feel like he does it on purpose.
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some consoles even have their own disc image formats!
Ever look into Wii games? It's madness over there. -
There's a whole special toolset for converting between ISOs, WDF, WIA, CISO, GCZ, and WBFS.