Mastodon is financed by crowdfunding instead of venture capital not because we don't know that venture capital exists, not because we don't have bills to pay, and not because venture capital isn't willing to give money to new social media platforms.
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Yes, you have told me that was not your purpose.
Hence, let me re-quote what you have already quoted, from the web page where your foundation expressly states their "Mission". I'm going to highlight some parts, for your convenience:
»Whether that’s advertising supported, or funded by charities and non-profits, or based on paid-for services, or affiliate revenue, we are working to find ways that companies can do well in the Fediverse.«
I do not even have the number of legs that you obviously seem to be trying to pull here.
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@katzenberger so, why are you skipping over those other ways that Fediverse servers can be supported?
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by
@katzenberger I want to check: do you know that there are ad-supported Mastodon servers, and that there are ad-supported accounts?
Would it make you more comfortable if we didn't acknowledge ads as a way that Fediverse services are supported?
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Now that I have confronted you with a quote that expressly contradicts the claim you had made only minutes before, you're trying to deflect?
Sorry, this discussion is a waste of time. Have a good day.
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@katzenberger OK. Good luck in your work, and don't hesitate to reach out if you'd like to talk further.
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CM Harringtonreplied to William Pietri last edited by
@williampietri @Gargron Anything that requires an exit strategy in order to get money is a fucking scam.
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@katzenberger what do you think my agenda is? Based on what you know of me?
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by [email protected]
@katzenberger oh, and: I updated our mission page to better reflect what we plan to work on. Here's the new version of the paragraph that you objected to:
"We want the Fediverse to be sustainable
The Fediverse cannot thrive without those who build and maintain infrastructure like clients or servers, and social infrastructure like moderation. We want the people and organizations who provide those services to have the financial and mental health support they need for the long haul."
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@uexo @wysteriary @Gargron yah, every other VC-funded open source project uses this exact same argument "we're different, we haven't let it affect us" right up until the moment the investors start putting pressure on for returns. Matrix is no different, in fact they started re-inventing the wheel specifically so that they could get big VC dollars, so there's no chance they wouldn't make huge compromises if those dollars were under threat.
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Evan Prodromoureplied to Evan Prodromou last edited by
@katzenberger We're doing strategic planning right now among the founders, and we've been discussing a change from "financially viable" to "sustainable" for a while, so I just did it. We'll make more changes to the Web site over the next few months, too. Please feel free to let me or the other team members know if there's something on the Web site that is giving you pause.
