successor to free software which avoids libertarianism and encodes rights https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/112475230792340206
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sync/async messaging interface https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/113660749722724987
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sync/async messaging interface https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/113671937903085735
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signal discoverability and verifiability of contacts https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/113401834030197134
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signal discoverability and verifiability of contacts https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/113401801768947555
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better shell language https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/113398860298221984
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spack-rs and scie-pants to defeat cargo-dist https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/111813613010631804
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spack-cli to use spack from other package managers https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/112506684146239002
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(no post) distinct rust build tool and package manager proejcts which applies "build xor pkg" and actually caches builds and doesn't suck to configure
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@hipsterelectron Outsource this one to me. I’m on it. Slowly.
(It will also be a shell replacement, kind of.)
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@samir sorry this one is mine but we can and should collab
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@samir the build xor pkg thing is like crucial to my Grand Unifying Theory and it also directly bleeds into several reasons cargo sucks https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/113662844632964027
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@samir another post on same https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/113534635833989257
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@samir so it's very important to me but when i say "this one is mine" i just mean i personally need to make sure it happens so if you get far enough ahead i will actually just use yours actually so kinda nvm. but since it's something i expect to use myself frequently it will be hard to cede that entirely to someone else
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@hipsterelectron Tell you what. I will get around to writing this thing up properly one day (the vision, not the current state) and if it resonates with you, great. If not, I think it’s fine if we both do it.
(Before I do that, I have an idea I’ll never implement for how to fix search, and I’m halfway through writing it up. Gonna send the draft to you if you’re interested.)
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@hipsterelectron Just remembered I already did, kind of, though it’s unfinished: https://gist.github.com/SamirTalwar/6d0fbf8695a87ec6dda88818913a3dfb
I might have even sent you this before, no idea.
(It’s OK if you hate it, I won’t mind.)
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@samir i am thinking of something which is clear in my head but only vaguely defined here for build tool process and i/o orchestration including execution caching https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/113680773285135674
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@samir i agree re declarativity enabling a graph interpretation
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@samir i have an extremely negative association with calling excel a build tool and/or programming language for deeply specific personal reasons https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/113679884627777286 especially the build systems a la carte paper which ignored our existing tool that proved its main thesis false but had the gall to call excel a build tool but your specifics seem good i just emphatically do not consider excel empowering simply because it's widely used, because it's a monopolistic product line from a monopolistic company. i wish discussion about its capabilities for empowerment would not take its widespread (forced) uptake as evidence of it therefore being empowering. the rest seems good and i would want to see it
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@hipsterelectron Regarding Excel: I agree with everything you say, and perhaps “spreadsheets” would be more accurate, because I think they’ve been the most popular programming languages since Lotus 1-2-3. Excel is just the commercial monopoly incarnation, as you say (though Google Sheets is pretty popular, it’s basically a clone with no additional benefit except a JS scripting interface).
Which was the build tool that disproved the paper? Pants?
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@hipsterelectron BTW, I love your build xor pkg concept and it helped me understand that what I’m going for is a build tool and absolutely never a packaging tool, instead leaning on other tools to make that happen.
