Today in “running a certificate authority is hard”: German company numbers aren’t unique (they’re unique per state; you need to qualify them with which federal state the company is registered within)
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Maybe everyone should just give up and just use
VATDE
numbers instead; at least VAT registration numbers are unique (Thanks, EU!).If you’re not VAT registered, sucks to be you
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@erincandescent I kind of hate LEIs but it should probably just use LEIs.
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@russss eh, I feel like an additional identifier you’ve gotta go and register for and renew kinda sucks as a system tbh.
Also they encode the issuer in them, so if you change LEI issuer does your LEI change?
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@russss Honestly a simple and pragmatic approach would just be to extend VAT number assignment to all companies even if they’re not registered for VAT.
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Did you know that company number
HRB 1000
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@erincandescent @russss no, they do not
I moved mine from the GS1 to Bloomberg last year
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@russss Aren't LEIs just for certain financial orgs? So I suppose <10% of German *companies* have one. Might be a good unique identifier but basically non-existant. @erincandescent
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@wink @erincandescent any org can apply for one. At least in the UK, a company needs one to purchase publicly-traded shares, so they're not too uncommon.
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@russss Not an expert but I do think in Germany (which was the original example) it's absolutely not in widespread use, esp. if you don't need it (which would be only if you are a financial org or do stock etc trades/buys AND according to wikipedia also depending on your form of incorporation) and it comes with costs. I'd love to get numbers, but I don't think my 10% estimate is far off. @erincandescent
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@erincandescent @russss @wink having looked up a few businesses' EUIDs , it seems those unique IDs are just X-Justiz IDs.
At least all EUIDs i saw had the form "DE" followed by the X-Justiz ID of the court, followed by a dot and then the HRB.
e.g.: "DEF1103R.HRB74346B" for D-Trust GmBH
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@divayth_fyr @russss @wink Wait its the X-Justiz ID of the court? That actually makes sense
D-Trust might be on to something here!