Fifth grader 1: I don't think I get that reference.
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Fifth grader 1: I don't think I get that reference.
Fifth grader 2: I don't think it is a reference. It's just weird.I swear they are more sophisticated than I ever was at that age.
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@futurebird I keep hearing cultural critics and educators talking about the young as if they are intellectually stunted in some unprecedented and alarming way (and they always say they know the reason: it's the pandemic closures, it's smartphones, it's social media, it's that they don't read books, it's pop culture)
and I think, I don't know, maybe they're talking about the ones I haven't met. The kids I've known seem all right.
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Yeah, the kids seem fine. It's the search engines that make me sound like a cranky old person "In my day these sort of results would have never been first. In my day you could search for things and not get funneled into shopping... or LIED TO obviously by a babbling computer... " *wanders off muttering*
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@futurebird Rich people seem worse than they've been in decades. They were never great but for Christ's sake, they've lost all sense of fake propriety. That's my biggest complaint.
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Yeah used to be that it was easier to pretend to admire them, or they put more effort into being "morally impressive" at least on the surface.
Now they just think the money itself is impressive ... but it's not.
Go build 200 libraries or something. jeeeez
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dirty badwrong personreplied to myrmepropagandist last edited by@futurebird @mattmcirvin i really do wonder where that cultural shift came from
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Matt McIrvinreplied to dirty badwrong person last edited by
@apophis @futurebird Rich people are WAY RICHER than they were a few decades ago, in comparative terms. A smaller number of them control a much larger portion of the total economic product, and have tremendous power, and being in this position seems to be absolutely toxic to the human brain.
The situation is more like the late 19th century, the Gilded Age. And the rich people of that time were buck wild.
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It's absolutely staggering how the richest people in the world have jumped from single digit billions to hundreds of billions in just the last 20 years or so. Meanwhile median wealth in the US has stayed the same or decreased as most Americans are living in debt and paycheck to paycheck.
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@futurebird @mattmcirvin I am still frustrated with search engines. You need to know what you’re searching for before you start searching.
I like having no idea what the answer to a problem might be and how to even ask the right questions. Sometimes I eventually figure it out, sometimes there is no answer..
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I used to feel like I could always find anything I wanted with search engines. But, in the last five years that has no longer been true.
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David Megginsonreplied to myrmepropagandist last edited by
@futurebird Search engine quality has definitely declined, even before they started including "AI summaries" in the results. For example, Google no longer limits itself to literal matches when I enclose something in quotation marks.
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merlin / alex glowreplied to David Megginson last edited by
@david_megginson @futurebird @oldredsubby @mattmcirvin I've noticed this too, and it drives me up the wall! Anything that's oddly specific is slowly being lost to time
A gradual loss of complexity... AI and autocomplete prompting us to interact as generically as possible; interfaces making assumptions for us in a million little ways. (Looking at you, iOS cursor placement
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myrmepropagandistreplied to merlin / alex glow last edited by
@alexglow @david_megginson @oldredsubby @mattmcirvin
When a program decides that "no you must have really wanted THIS." (because this is what most people want) it kind of hurts, like an insult, like being condescended to.
Being told what you ought to want, were you ... normal.
I know I shouldn't take it personally but part of me always will.
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@futurebird @alexglow @david_megginson @oldredsubby @mattmcirvin indeed and it’s frustrating because when I’m searching for something specific I usually have a very good reason.
Like google (gmail) “helpfully” deciding that a search for receipt should return emails with recipes
(Which is eh not the same thing)
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snowdrop (it/its) 🏳️⚧️replied to Shannon Clark last edited by
@Rycaut “Receipt” does mean “recipe”, at least where I’m from. I associate it mostly with older generations than mine, but I’d have no trouble understanding it. Suspect that’s why the search considers them the same.
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Shannon Clarkreplied to snowdrop (it/its) 🏳️⚧️ last edited by
@snowdrop perhaps but it is archaic and never used that way in written emails that I get.
And I was searching for an actual receipt. The search engine should not return recipes.
If they want to it should t be the default behavior. It could be a suggestion like “there are X more results that match recipe do you want to see those?”
But gmail also can’t give me accurate numbers (I do have about 1M emails - not an exageration)
