Allowlist is the future of the "fediverse" man; this free-for-all where anyone can connect with anyone only serves trolls and arseholes.
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Allowlist is the future of the "fediverse" man; this free-for-all where anyone can connect with anyone only serves trolls and arseholes. For the "fediverse" to become something useful that serves people other than weirdo "free-speech" techies, it has to be completely destroyed and the fragments of technology have to be rebuilt into unintended and subversive forms. We gotta have smaller clusters of instances with fewer people in them, who vouch for each other and call each other the fuck in. The "fediverse" has to mutate into something damn near unrecognizable. We can do it!
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@[email protected] Indeed. There are many fediverses! some of them are anti-racist, anti-fascist, pro-lgbtqia2s+ ... those are the ones i want to be in.
And, totally agree on moving towards allow-list (or something based on allow-list). It's yet another reason i'm so excited about GtS -
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Agreed that there are interesting middle grounds, I've heard people talk about "allow-list plus" as a general category. In https://privacy.thenexus.today/free-fediverses-and-consent/ I wrote
"There aren't yet a lot of good tools to make consent-based federation convenient scalable, but that's starting to change. Instance catalogs like The Bad Space and Fediseer, and emerging projects like the FIRES recommendation system. FSEP's design for an"approve followers" tool, could also easily be adapted for approving federation requests. ActivityPub spec co-author Erin Shepherd's suggestion of "letters of introduction", or something along the lines of the IndieWeb Vouch protocol, could also work well at the federation level. Db0's Can we improve the Fediverse Allow-List Model? and the the "fedifams" and caracoles I discuss in The free fediverses should support concentric federations of instances could help with scalability and making it easier for new instances to plug into a consent-based network."
(the original has links to posts with more details)
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Not sure if you've see The Website League https://websiteleague.org/ but it's very intriguing ... as is https://alyaza.neocities.org/essays/minifesto
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@jdp23 Interesting, for sure!
In the communities I participate we see our instances as digital spaces of anarchist practice and collective governance.
We are small (from ~10 to ~30) and we have some degree of privilege, so we are usually not in need of isolation. But “confederation” is a concept that fits quite well to our anarchist view.
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@marcelcosta @jdp23 Probably, #FediHealth was a good idea…
fedihealth
fedihealth - Share fediverse node out/in lists with trusted sources.
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#FediHealth was indeed a good idea, I hadn't seen it before! I updated https://privacy.thenexus.today/blocklists-in-the-fediverse/ to include a reference to it, how does this look?
"[W]ith hundreds of problematic instances out there, blocking them individually can be tedious and error-prone – and new admins often don't know to do it.
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The FediHealth project, from 2019, started to address this problem by providing suggestions of instances to follow and block based on policies PeerTube and Pleroma instances "whose federation policies you trust." Starting in early 2023, Mastodon began providing the ability for admins to protect themselves from hundreds of problematic instances at a time by uploading blocklists (aka denylists): lists of instances to suspend or limit. "