for fuck's sake, what goddamn comedy of errors leads to you just being locked out of your fucking system if a single mount fails by default?
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@aud god I hate the debug UX for systemd. I do NOT like system V style init, but at least there are fewer moving partsā¦
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run0you stupid little bitch gorun0yourself into a fucking long walk off a short pier -
this doesn't even make sense. I hate this for me.
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@aud I don't want to distract from the catharsis but I am super curious if the problem was a missing `nofail` on the fstab line.
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@[email protected] yeah, like, I didn't like System V and it's nice to have like... you know, parallel init or whatever but ffs.
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@[email protected] so, yes, that is indeed technically the appropriate solution, but it should probably be cleanly documented and possibly recommended for non-critical defaults in more places
it also usually is like, you know, by the time your ass can't log in, it's too late for that fix
also, systemd's ability to suggest how long an operation is going to take to fail sucks ass. I want to make a joke about it being on Microsoft time but he literally works for them now so it's not even a joke.
"oh, it says this operation will go for a max of 1 minute 30 seconds huh? ... oh, we hit one minute 30 seconds and just... now you've... given it more time? why? WHY?" -
@aud the short answer is that the guy is very clearly seeking personal power
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@[email protected] Specifically what's getting my goat is that I only learned about
nofailmaybe a few weeks ago but this install is much older than that. And also, maybe just, you know, let me fucking override it at the emergency command line
If memory serves, even if my root account wasn't locked (the fuck does that even MEAN, systemd, you asshole) you can't even like... work around it easily. I think you have to basically edit fstab in the emergency command line. Logically if/mnt/notfuckingimportantdoesn't mount ... blehhhhh -
@[email protected] RIGHT?!
RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT THOUGH -
@aud yeah it's really annoying that everyone seems to be just letting him do it. like... don't? we have alternatives?
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@aud like at the distro level we can just, not adopt his shit
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@[email protected] I know thereās some flavors out there that donāt use systemd, but I donāt know what they use insteadā¦
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@[email protected] I think I'll probably switch to Gentoo after a little research; OpenRC seems nice, it's one of the few distributions I don't have experience with, and while I've been using Fedora for a minute, my machines are really struggling with Fedora 41 for whatever reason so it seems like a good time. Whenever I get around to reinstalling, that is...
