How web bloat impacts users with slow devices:https://danluu.com/slow-device/
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How web bloat impacts users with slow devices:
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@[email protected] congrats on hitting the top of HN!
I am interested in seeing whether @[email protected] would fare better in your testing. We spent quite a bit of time over the years on making it wicked fast, and I personally feel it is a better representation of modern forum software than Discourse, at least on speed and initial payload.
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@julian @nodebb It's much faster than Discourse, but also slower than all of the php forums tested. Just trying it on the M1 and the Tecno Spark 8C, I get 0.3s/0.4s on the M1 and 3.4s/7.2s on the TS8C.
It's quite usable after the initial load on the TS8C. Clicking on links and loading individual threads is slower than on the php forums, but scrolling, clicking, etc., all work as expected, which can't be said for Discourse or many other "modern" sites.
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It's the only site that has an LCP* that's much faster than the LCP (3.4s vs. 7.3s for the TS8C) so there might be a small optimization that could be done that would hugely improve LCP? The content mostly shows up, but then stuff ends up moving around a bit or something?
I didn't try to debug this, but it might be worth looking into seeing if there's an easy way to hugely cut LCP on slow devices since I'm told that this is a ranking signal for Google search.
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@[email protected] wow, thanks so much for running your test for me! It means a lot.
Also your note about our abnormally high LCP (sans asterisk) is interesting, considering the tricks that other sites utilize to artificially lower LCP, but which we don't bother with.
Ironically since the LCP* is lower than LCP, it suggests that us fixing this only results in a higher PageSpeed score but might not actually result in net benefit for end users. Ha!... but if there is a content shift, that's definitely a problem that needs to be addressed.
I'm not going to lie and say we don't chase metrics, we totally do... we just try to increase our metrics by actually making the site faster!
