@artemis sure so like ... free software is like "what if software could be a liberatory project that could empower users?" and open source is like "what if developing software in the open could allow companies to become more profitable because they're more efficient"there's also an unspoken "...and what if by using open licenses you can exploit labor better by appropriating the good vibes of the free software movement without actually doing anything to further its aims?" scam that a lot of dumbass politically-naive hackers fell for in the 00s and early 10s, including yours truly