@matthewmaybe @molly0xfff we still use it (only in rare situations though)

@Eka_FOOF_A @molly0xfff slightly before our time, but yes! for sure!

@Researchbuzz @molly0xfff that WAS pretty great

@molly0xfff it was pretty great, as an impoverished kid, being able to hang out with leading experts in all sorts of topics and treated with more respect than we got from the people physically around us. really extremely great. that's by far the biggest thing we try to pay forward.

@molly0xfff we will say that what we miss about the 1990s internet was as much Usenet and mailing-list culture as it was "the web"

@molly0xfff most of the sites we visited were run by individual people whose personality was all over them

a few really BIG ones were run by groups of like five volunteers, in aggressively counter-hierarchical ways

@danderson for sure!

@swetland @mos_8502 it's among our ambitions as well

we'd like ours to be based on Futamura projections and partial evaluation, because we don't choose easy projects... ><

@swetland @mos_8502 oh! well it sounds really fun, for whatever that's worth, and we do think that fun is an under-rated reason to do things. a lot of stuff we have great admiration for was done for fun, not for any higher goal - though it ended up serving other goals too.

@swetland @mos_8502 *sigh* reflecting back on our past we don't think we ever seriously believed that there would be a single final programming language, but we sure did buy into the purity narrative anyway

@mos_8502 btw if you hadn't guessed, it was you who reminded us of our thread, thanks

@medley56 @_xhr_ us? no

@BenAveling @_xhr_ lol. yes. it is some consolation, thank you.

@_xhr_ too many of these tools are like that, it's quite frustrating

@_xhr_ oh hey!

we're happy to know this and may end up using it, if we can remember about it long enough to get in the habit...

but mostly, as one person who's been using it for decades to another, we cannot think of a worse condemnation of the UX that it takes THAT LONG to discover things in it

@mathowie it's about half a mile, but presumably you're not reading this while you drive

you're right, they really shouldn't go off of physical location for this sort of thing. building proper unit settings controls is a lot of work, but the company shouldn't have punted on it.

@Michael yeah - well, it's not that they're unrelated things, but they come from different theories of change. build a technology vs. organize a group of people. they could certainly go together.

@Michael see, what we'd like to see is one that's a worker-owned co-op.

@theincredibleholk it doesn't get said often enough, so at the risk of repeating ourselves we'll be more explicit: note-taking is a difficult skill that not everyone can do. it is not a skill that people automatically have just because they know a lot of things, and it can make a great deal of sense to have someone specialize in it.

@theincredibleholk but we've found that leaning on those people to do routine scheduling is a waste of THEIR time (except for the huge events that can't happen otherwise)

and anyway, as someone whose primary tasks are creative ones, getting our calendar the way we like it is deeply entwined with understanding the ebb and flow of our own creative energies and making sure they actually happen. it is not a thing we could possibly delegate.