@cy I mean, I've been at this a very long time. (Decades, both as a cult researcher and before that when I *was* in a cult.) The frontal approach never works, and neither does deconstructing every little detail of their point. You've got to keep it simple, pick a direction and ask questions, something they're not doing. Get down to basic values. Get them to 1. Become consciously aware of their own values, and 2. Compare those values with what they're saying. And even then it's hard, but the other way is impossible.My questions don't actually make assumptions, I just go with him into his world to show him what his world looks like from a direction he's never seen. This is how you bypass the defenses placed there by his cult.Or we discover that his deepest values really are hateful, and then he's just shown everyone else. He can't hide it under acceptable values.#NextDoor #AbuseCulture (tagging to find later)