@wdlindsy @inthehands
You figure it out, Blue Maga. I'm done with liberal apologists for the Dem party establishment. Using representation politics as a shield for neoliberal economics and genocide is only tainting anti-racism with the rot.

@wdlindsy @inthehands
Oh?

toussaint (@[email protected])

Attached: 2 images the exact same 74M people voted for trump in 2024 as did in 2020. please resist all efforts to say 'the nation was re-shaped' by this election or that trans ppl/blk men/arabs/muslims/latinos need to be punished. the difference was the 10-11M dems that said fuck yall and your genocide. If that is the 'Left' its tiny, but it could also be king/queen maker if we had our own party that only deals wit #CorpoDems on the POTUS spot, trading electoral votes for policies #Solidarity

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@MisuseCase @futurebird @inthehands
I am less pessimistic. I worked on the Jesse Jackson campaign in 1988 in Michigan. No one thought he could win the state. My cousin Mike came up to me at a wedding around that time and said, “I heard you're working for Jesse Jackson." I told him I was. Mike said, “Not in my lifetime.” And walked away. I knew what he meant to say, “no black president”. (Mike's still alive by the way).

I've lived all over the country now: Texas, Ohio, Chicago, the former sundown state of Oregon. The most outspokenly racist people I've ever met were in the Detroit suburbs.

Jackson won the Dem primary that year. And he didn't just win in heavily black areas like Detroit and Flint — he won in Muskegon. There were no black people in Muskegon. He won by talking to the issues of the disaffected people. After that, I'm not ruling out someone from any demographic provided they run the right kind of campaign.

@MisuseCase @futurebird @inthehands
This is not actionable, unless you're saying that from now on you will never support a black woman that runs in the Dem primary because you think she can't win.

I suspect this might be a rationalization for not critically examining the performance of the Dem Party establishment.

@inthehands
The name of the game today is fire up and turn out your base.

@inthehands
Racism must be part of it, how much we'll get a better idea once psephologists have been able to pore over the data. Harris did pitch assiduously to allegedly anti-Trump middle-class Republicans. That effort seems to have fallen flat. Some of that must be due to racism and/or misogyny.

@sphinx @inthehands
So, what’s the solution? Dems should not nominate African-Americans or women for President?