@julian said in What's next after v3?:

I've said it there and I'll say it here. NodeBB will follow the ActivityPub spec and, if possible, will be tested against both Flarum and Discourse integrations because doing so makes federated forums a force to be reckoned with.

This is good. More and more development efforts too are focusing so little on the Mastodon API and instead focusing on the actual standards - S2S & C2S as they should.

Building Federation for the Fediverse is of paramount consideration, while making sure one federates with a single Fediverse platform whose significance is waning as the bellweather for social communications. Even entire Mastodon communities have left that platform and migrated en masse to other, more capable platforms - some outright forks like Glitch-Soc or Hometown, and many more to other more promising Fediverse platforms that have enjoyed greater adoption due to their more accommodating utility for their userbases.

In the End, it's not really about communities built on an instance and provided to the user base - it's about users across the entire #Fediverse building communities that span the myriad platforms and instances; especially as smolweb / smallweb and single user platforms continue to build critical mass in terms of installed instances.

#Friendica, being one of the great-grandaddy's of, and staples in, the Fediverse, is a great platform chosen by many projects to effectively represent the branding, marketing, and social communications needs - blogs, announcements, changelogs, newsletters, and public dialog... Things a limited microblogging software cannot deliver.

Just arrived.

Trying to decide between Flarem and NodeBB, and finding this thread that is laced with such off-topic ranting of, "Is Rails still relevant", or, "Should people use Slack instead of forum software?" Just crap. Addresses none of y questions comparing Discourse and NodeBB. Y'know, I'm not even gonna go there. The thread is about the comparison between two fora platforms and even though it's based at one of the homes it's not able to stay on topic!

Well. I understand passion, and I certainly don't let crap like this sway me one way or the other in making a decision, but Geez people! It would be nice to have used this forum as a measure of helping me to make the determination I'm after lolz....

So, I know I don't want discord anymore, they won't even support manual build/installs, so they can take a hike (Like they're support was worth anything anyway).

But yah, I"m looking into the advantages between Flarem and NodeBB at this time.

Um.......

Why would anyone run that Slack crap anyway? At least use MatterMost if you're not going to go full Matrix. Geez! lolz.

Best wishes everybody. I'm sure I'll need support in the future here

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@volanar Yes that's one reason Discord is definitely not being considered.

Okay, if you're bringing in $150K/mo on hosting subscriptions then why are you looking for seed investors?

All that ever tells me when I see it is that they cannot live within their means, and/or they see the twilight coming and want cash for a parachute.

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It's often a bit difficult to ascertain whether mastodon instances are deployments of the actual mastodon upstream or one of the myriad forks improving upon mastodon's limited inherent capabilities out of the box.

Some of the notables are:

• Hometown
• Glitch-Soc
• littleforest - Running instance example HERE

I won't add an endless list and although many of the features added are shared in some way between many of the forks, they're not universally adopted across the spectrum of forked projects. Things like variable per post character limits and Markdown are quite common amongst most, there's also Local only posts, OAuth 2, Quote Posts, etc., that are shared by just some of them.

The various online database tools like Fediverse Observer, FediDB, and Fedilist, etc., also either endeavor to ascertain which of these forks are attributed to each instance to varying degrees of success (and concern for such distinctions), or otherwise just lump them all together as mastodon stats. You can compare between these three online resources especially with respect to sorting by upstream or forks and compare results for your favorite tool.

LIke I said, I'm quite impressed with NodeBB so far, I've participated in a couple of boards that weren't so up to date and even they were really nice.

First thing I did though, to get rid of all that ugliness, what to track down theming in the settings and go to Darkly for the sake of my eyes. I just no longer care much for that bleach bottle supermarket blaring lights aesthetic.

Okay, here's what I'm doing. Trying to decide whether I like NodeBB or Flarum for an upcoming project. And regardless, I'm also going to be looking for a way to migrate a few entire communities over from Discourse too (Those bozos won't even support their own product unless you can say "docker run").

I guess the next thing I need to do is send a few PMs to myself and check out how Markdown is handled so I don't get on anyone's nerves lolz.

In all of your guy's comparisons, most of which went waaaaay off-topic, I didn't read anywhere that anyone capitalized upon the fact that one nice attraction of NodeBB over that of Flarum, is that it's currently in the list of one-click installs at Cloudron.io

Just thought I'd throw that in there

Well, I gotta run, I've got a misbehaving mail server and one never knows how long those calamities will take to fix lolz.

Glad to be here and I'm sure I'll be asking for a lot of community support in the future!

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Oh, thank you very much! Sentiments such as yours are what inspires many toward this endeavor.

Just so folks don't actually misconstrue my sometimes seemingly unfair characterizations of masto itself, I do point out in a few pinned posts that it's a quite stable and capable platform, notwithstanding other feature based shortcomings and the huge footprint (in terms of systems resources) it requires to run.

The other main gripe that I personally have is that the group behind masto itself have continuously attempted to brand it as the end-all be-all of the Fediverse (obviously patently false) by virtue of um.... not sharing the wealth of the huge diaspora of available alternatives, and also their tendency to market and fulfill its destiny as yet another monolithic silo.

Truth be told, when compared with other Fediverse platforms, most are built with the intention of being able to run on pretty much any UNIX machine with limited resources effectively, especially considering smolweb and single user self-hosted philosophies; masto, on the other hand, doesn't even really statistically come into its own (with respect to the huge amount of systems resources it requires, comparatively) until about the 20,000 user mark - they don't tout these specs much anymore, it's not really conducive to their mission, but simply reviewing the data at Fedivese.Observer here reveals that this particular instance (their flagship instance), has a total of more than 1.9 million users ("total_users": 1948782, as of this writing).

I wanted to offer this information on my take on things because I'm about to refer you to a resource that is really, really good, but it's also one that I won't normally recommend to people because IMO it tends to either glorify or focus way too much on the masto brand itself. Truth be told, it is a very excellent resource to learn about the Fediverse itself if you can get past all the masto brown-nosing.

https://Fedi.Tips - operated by https://social.growyourown.services/@FediTips who you can also follow from your own Fediverse account

Again, thanks for the positive encouragement, despite my sometimes abrasive presentation

#tallship #FOSS #Fediverse #ActivityPub

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@gotwf said in Use forums rather than Slack/Discord to support developer community [mooreds.com]:

here is also #nodebb on libera.chat.

Gotta love that IRC.

yeah, I really don't see much utility in temporal mediums like Slack over that of IRC.

On my phone though, I feel everyone's pain who isn't smart enough to install Weechat support so they're always connected, but other than that. IRC is lightweight, and simple and to the point - and ANY chat based system is temporal and the relevant info scrolls away (unlike forum software).

So yah, IRC is king in that regard, and if you wan't pretty pictures you can bridge your Libera.Chat chans with matrix so why is Slack even a thing?

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