@inthehands you'll have to forgive I've not read the full thread. But up to this point I'd like to share an alternative perspective. I work with businesses that still have those 'outdated' processes today and one of the reasons they haven't migrated to more sophisticated software yet is that it offers marginal benefits. When you dig into the cost of employing people to do general admin sometimes the cost-benefit of upgrading is very tight. Often the sales and marketing is the actual 'hoax'.