@julian I get that, but a lot of really bad habits will likely be impossible to rectify later. Not suggesting anyone be forced to implement anything, but it's another case were "best practices" would avoid a lot of unforced errors. Whether they see categories as random topics, or controlled vocabularies for any particular mission, some skilled librarians might be invited to describe some of those and provide working examples. This won't matter for stand-alone communities, but it might matter a lot for federated communities looking to optimize their knowledge sharing and distribution as things evolve.

I am continually frustrated that the "Chat" link in right sidebar shows me only latest chats, when I actually want the full chat interface page. An "all" link would fix this easily enough.!

I probably compose at least 400 post and chat messages a day on multiple platforms. Speed and simplicity of editing are very important to me.

@julian Yes, it may be simpler, but their UX is a dream to use. It doesn't work like you expect. There is no risk of losing data. It's infinitely superior to slack where you need two clicks just to edit a single node. If you picked the wrong node (common), cancel and do it all over again. It's a lot of work. And you don't have to struggle with each message to start editing if it was your previous message. You can be above a below the content of interest and easily scroll to it. Do you have a matrix account? Certainly not a priority, but you really should try it and see what i mean. Toss me a DM at @shoq:sidetalk.net when you have a moment.

@julian Here's a video showing Element/Matrix behavior when, the action begins from the last message posted, OR after any message entered editing mode. It works quite intuitively and makes editing contiguous messages as one block somewhat effortless.

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The distinction is important. If the user starts with ARROW UP, using the element modality would be great. You still need what you have when not already in edit mode. Do you have a matrix client running? It may be the same in more than Element by now.

Sidebar: Several years ago I bitched at @SlackHQ on twitter that I had been asking for a single character edit command (via email with support). You only got to it via the pull down selection. 3 years later, "e" was a reality. lol

Apologies. I said Slack. I meant Element/Matrix. Slack behaves as you suggest. Element as I described. It will move up message, then message line, then next message, IF t
he user already enters edit mode via ARROW UP. If any other message had focused, it simple shifts focus to the next element

Thanks Julian. I figured this was the case. Have you considered rules for tuples? Like should the main entry be the the left or right of a descriptor or qualifier?
[email protected] vs [email protected].

7 years later... SUch ARROW-UP now exists, BUT it only edits the most recent message. Matrix/Element and some other apps now let the use cursor thru up line by line across individual messages., which I find myself continuously trying to do because it's an obvious action. It would be great to see this implemented.

@julian How do you see the category namespaces working? Is the "topic" always going to be required by each nodebb domain using it? e .g
[email protected], [email protected], topicA@domain3, etc. In which case, how is term authority going to be curated across those domains?
I realize you may not have an answer yet, but curious as to how much thought you've already put into this. It's not going to the fun part.

Also, earlier you spoke of visual hierarchies, but I'm not seeing an example of exactly what you meant. Did you mean within the @actorname itself, (e.g. @US-CivilWar-history@ nodedomain.com? That will get messy fast. At best that can be a short alias entry for a more formal name-path you would expect to see in a serious topic catalogue. I know from hard experience there are no easy answers to these things. If there were, we'd have seen them by now. It's necessity is the mother of invention time

Thanks @crazycells . I I'm pretty sure it will become important to do that sooner or later.
probably sooner

@julian I was dabbling with this draft description to give my copywriter brother something he might improve upon. Could this work?

What is "The Threadiverse." Where "Fediverse" now refers to the decentralized social networking of people and content items, the "Threadiverse" seeks to evolve applications that make group discussions, or collections of them, as followable via popular social networking protocols.

@julian To your point, this has been out there for many months. I always assumed it was the OG use of the term, without much refinement added (yet). You're confirming my hunch https://sh.itjust.works/post/1119840

@[email protected] there is no right or wrong choice, I found. Having gone through that nomenclatural labyrinth for years, when I accounted for all the possible subtypes of objects that could be represented in different schemas, flows, taxonomies, and ontologies, the most generic term for the data always seemed to be -- if not "posts" -- the even more generic, "Items." But of course, an article is just a sub item type in itself. Just not the highest order of them. But item could avoid confusion with most local nomenclatures using more specific terms.

Also, where's the best place to post enhancement requests? Is there an integrated issue tracker, or is all that being done via the github?

@julian et al. I am new to all of this, so forgive me my dumb questions, but this is a lot to take in on day one, but i like jumping ahead, so can you point me to a post that clearly articulates the "threadiverse" vision in the simplest terms possible? I see a lot of terms being thrown around and not sure how they relate. is there a clear description of what the threadiverse is? What collections of topics are and how they would be used, etc? Are there any librarians involved thus far, in what I assume is the need for public topic ontology and/or directory design of some kind?