@hrefna @kopper @puppygirlhornypost2 @jenniferplusplus @benpate @sebinthestars http signatures are used for authorised fetch by basically all fedi software

@benpate @puppygirlhornypost2 @jenniferplusplus @hrefna @sebinthestars yeah now that i think about it the issues with the approach could be mitigated with a cache duration during which it doesn't fetch a new version. although that could become an issue with edits
or there could be an spf-like verification step to make sure the request can only come from the originating server

@benpate @puppygirlhornypost2 @jenniferplusplus @hrefna @sebinthestars i think you summarised a lot of the big pain points of activitypub pretty well, but i do want to mention that i don't think lookup validation is a good replacement for http signatures, because if we were to solely rely on it as a verification method, it could be abused by malicious instances to make the network ddos a certain instance (or any website for that matter, but that is already happening and doesn't seem to have a lot of impact on static sites) which could be bad for smaller instances running on low-spec hardware

other than a couple typos here and there i think your summary is pretty good overall though

@benpate @puppygirlhornypost2 @jenniferplusplus @hrefna @laurenshof i think it's both. when you see literally everything that's being talked about, that's so much stuff to be constantly paying attention to, and it gets hard to build meaningful connections

@laurenshof @puppygirlhornypost2 @jenniferplusplus @hrefna @benpate my issue with atproto is that its vision is incompatible with how the fediverse operates
the fediverse forms a lot of natural circles based on how things federate while on atproto you see everything from everywhere which is not even a bad thing in itself, but combined with the main audience of bluesky (because that's the only noteworthy atproto implementation atm) (mostly ex-twitter users, where the culture is completely different and focused on numbers instead of interaction), it makes me feel alienated. it's that feeling that i'm interacting with people but there is no connection made

@benpate @puppygirlhornypost2 @jenniferplusplus @hrefna what is strict mode?

@jenniferplusplus @puppygirlhornypost2 @hrefna @benpate the issue with writing a new protocol instead of extending an existing one is that it isn't worth anything without anyone actually using it, and getting software developers to implement a completely new protocol instead of adding extensions to their current implementation is a much more difficult task