I tried to sync @[email protected] with @testing-ground. I wonder if there's a setting I missed while setting up the category.

@julian said in Is ActivityPub too complicated?:

Let me look into nodebb-to-nodebb folllowing, that definitely should be working!

Have you had a chance to verified that it is? Because I'm getting a never-ending Pending status when trying to sync to @testing-ground. Things federate fine, but without the syncing being established, they either don't get addressed to my instance, or are dumped into /world if I specifically reference someone on my site. And it's a little weird that they're not all ending up in /world, because I have an account that's following @testing-ground.

@julian said in Lemmy and NodeBB:

Seems like a bug or restriction on their part.

Yeah, at the very least it's not how people seem to expect it to work, but a lot about ActivityPub doesn't work the way people have been accustomed to. So I can understand that.

Personally, I have complicated feelings about whether a site even should be hosting groups for non-local users. I guess I can see a use-case for such a thing, but this whole endeavour feels like it needs to be local-first to me, rather than LARPing as homogeneous centralized social media.

The difference appears to be whether the OP is on lemmy.world (LW; the site that hosts the community) or not. Posts made by LW users do not include the tag or media, while posts made by off-site users do contain the tag and media.

It's happening!

Almost everything here in the attached image is coming from [email protected], a Lemmy community (Christine Lemmer-Webber excepted). So, that's exciting! There's some inconsistencies with regards to whether the attached images are coming through, and whether community is being tagged or not, but that's just rough edges. Image-based communities aren't as much of a forum thing anyway.

I was worried that forking just wouldn't be supported on federated topics, or that if a posted was forked, it would break federation. So, this is incredible. This is what I've been waiting 2 and a half years for.

Hmm, ok. Unexpected and unintended interactions (or lack there of) it is, then. Fun!

Edit: This comment, FWIW, showed up in Lemmy right away. So, whatever the issue with on-site comments not federating out seems to have been resolved. If no active intervention was taken, it may have been an issue with Lemmy 0.19.3 (lemmy.ca just updated the other day to 0.19.7, IIRC), or it may have just been federation queue issues.

Edit Edit: I love that federated comment chains can be forked without breaking federation. That's awesome.

No, I understand, it's just that I am following the group actors. I'm following the Lemmy communities from here, but new posts from them aren't arriving. I'm following the nodeBB topics from Lemmy, but nodeBB user comments aren't showing up there.

Lemmy only supports following group actors. So, Lemmy communities, gup.pe groups, PeerTube channels, NodeBB topics, etc. If NodeBB's federation is reliant specifically on following users, that represents a fundamental difference in the federation models between the platforms.

@julian said in NodeBB v4.0.0 Beta:

whether a user from lemmy.ca follows a user here

Hmm. That's going to be a big issue for Lemmy federation, then, because Lemmy doesn't even allow you to follow users, only groups. If that's the case, this seems like a deeper compatibility issue, and probably is probably more of a feature update than a bug fix.

I hadn't even considered trying to follow Lemmy users. Lemmy doesn't let you do that. I'll double check to see if that's working for me.

Another interesting discovery on that front, though: Searching for [email protected] returns my nodebb.org account, not my lemmy account. In fact, this appears to be so for any of my other fedi accounts, as I use the same username on all of them.

Oh, weird. I also don't seem to be able to follow an of the openbeta topics. It finds them (e.g. [email protected]), and the UI indicates that I've successfully followed when I click the 'Follow' button, but it doesn't appear in the list of entities I'm following, and if I search for it again, it says I'm not following it.

Is that topic not federating? If not, why is it discoverable?

I left a reply on the 4.0 beta launch post that I'm unable to see here: https://lemmy.ca/post/29616839/13019946 As you'll see, the only comments from that thread that made it over to there are from off-site commenters as well.

I've also subscribed to several Lemmy communities here, and none of the posts from those communities are showing up in my World feed, or anywhere else. They appear empty when I navigate to them from my profile (also, the 'following' count on my profile reads 0, suggesting that it only counts on-site entities), e.g. https://community.nodebb.org/user/[email protected]

Federation with Lemmy seems broken. I can view nodebb.org topics from lemmy.ca, but I can't view Lemmy posts from here. Additionally, only some of my comments from lemmy.ca seem to be landing on posts here, and local nodebb.org comments don't seem to be visible from lemmy.ca (I only see off-site comments).