@jwildeboer As much as I share your sentiment AFAIK the Signal Foundation does depend on funding by the US government or some agencies. While I believe they won't use this to compromise the service they could still damage it by withholding funding.

@inthehands I know of those, and the security provided by them is only bolted on a system never meant to be secure. There are so many issues: conflating encryption with authentication, insecure by default, key management, no group recipient encryption support with changing members (e.g. mailing lists), additional devices are hard to authorize.

Looking at instant messengers, modern messengers like Signal or WhatsApp solved a lot of the issues of their predecessors. I'd like to know how mail would look if it were to be designed today with all we know.

@inthehands That made me ask myself: If some smart people were to design a secure, E2E supporting, distributed mail system, how would that look? Maybe some people already have and nobody noticed?

@cwebber Spritely Millenium Edition!

@jwildeboer That's really good advice. The only thing that'd come to my mind: How to merge my local changes with upstream then? Or rebase or whatever.

@jwildeboer Branches and tags are very confusing for beginners like me. The whole git concept is totally strange for people not working with it every day. So, I totally agree.