@kissane ah, now I see what you mean. But will being more pleasant to use be enough for non-tech people to care if they still have the problem that their friends aren't here? Or, put otherwise, does the fediverse lose them to easier and more pleasant networks, or just to bigger networks, regardless of how pleasant they are?

@kissane you're right, but there's a bit of a contradiction between how you state the problem in the first post, and the solution you propose, isn't there? Maybe I'm missing something

@kissane But you're saying what we build doesn't matter - what matters is that your people are there. How do we beat that? We can't force people to come here...