@jenniferplusplus hey, understood, i can totally see how this comes across as trying to convince. and, deep apologies. i /am/ trying to understand, couple of things 1) why does it feel that things like TFs are sucking the air out of the room? (given that you're there, and see that it's just devs collaborating) and 2) where would you prefer that this work be done, instead?
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This is an interesting (pronounced like "frustrating") thread.@jenniferplusplus I think 'efforts blessed by big standards org' implies a lot more gravitas than what actually happens. Again, taking the Forum TF as example - it was just a bunch of devs wanting to coordinate their implementations, they asked the CG to come do it in a task force, CG was delighted. Happened several times. Why is this 'soaking up attention'? Or, where else would you rather devs meet to collab? If there are better venues, I wanna be there too!
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This is an interesting (pronounced like "frustrating") thread.@jenniferplusplus Why distract, though? Can't we all work on all this stuff in parallel? For example, one of the task forces is the Threaded Discussions and Forums Task Force -- it's basically a bunch of implementers from forum and Reddit-like platforms trying to hammer out ways of interoperating. I don't disagree with you that ActivityPub has deep problems and needs work. But like..
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This is an interesting (pronounced like "frustrating") thread.@jenniferplusplus re
> except activitypub and the w3c are now actively standing in the way, and sucking up all the oxygen for organizing thatSo, I'm partly involved in activitypub and w3c stuff, so of course I'm very curious to hear more - what are some of the ways it's standing in the way? I mean, best as I can tell (being involved in it), the social web cg is just trying to provide some github repos, and some (monthly) calls for devs to coordinate, share pain points, start task forces..
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I sure have a lot of thoughts on a lot of things, none of which belong on a microblogging network.@kissane then we (the microblogging network) have failed!! Where ELSE do you put hot takes & shit posts & profound missives?
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Bookmark to future self, this 'Before You Interact' (with non-mutuals) idea is promising.https://mastodon.social/@trwnh/113177489768805475Bookmark to future self, this 'Before You Interact' (with non-mutuals) idea is promising.
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Last day of #FediForum 2024.Great discussion on DIDs and the Fediverse. Talked about DID<->AP Actor Profile<->ATP round-trip linking, migration from dead servers, migration across different protocols and domains, other stuff. And hey, resulted in this: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/1331
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Last day of #FediForum 2024.This awesome chart https://fed.brid.gy/docs#compare compares the components of various Fediverse protocols (ActivityPub, ATProto, IndieWeb, etc)
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Last day of #FediForum 2024.@evan 's ActivityPub book is coming soon from O'Reilly: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/activitypub/9781098162733/ch01.html
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Last day of #FediForum 2024.Last day of #FediForum 2024. Excellent sessions. More linkdump / bookmarks:
* Unconference in the UK coming up -> https://oggcamp.org (Andy Piper is one of the organisers and it is open source and free culture)
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Bookmarks / notes for the future on stuff I discovered during today's #FediForum. In random order:* Threads's Graph API https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v20.0/thread@matt @ben @andypiper Hahah, do it, Matt! Sounds rad.
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At #FediForum Day 2, and Bonfire / OpenScience integration (https://bonfirenetworks.org/posts/openscience_network/ ) is being demo'd.At #FediForum Day 2, and Bonfire / OpenScience integration (https://bonfirenetworks.org/posts/openscience_network/ ) is being demo'd. Featuring ORCID login and profile integration, very interesting! https://openscience.network/
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Bookmarks / notes for the future on stuff I discovered during today's #FediForum. In random order:* Threads's Graph API https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v20.0/threadMike Waggoner's notes and thoughts about Location Sharing via ActivityPub: https://herebox.org/text/activitypub-location-sharing/
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Bookmarks / notes for the future on stuff I discovered during today's #FediForum. In random order:* Threads's Graph API https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v20.0/thread"Shell Game" Podcast, https://www.shellgame.co/ "A podcast about things that are not what they seem, hosted by journalist Evan Ratliff. In Season One, that thing is Evanβs voice. By creating a voice clone and hooking it up to an AI chatbot, ... Over the course of six episodes, Evanβs voice agents talk to spammers and scammers, to Evanβs friends and family, to colleagues and sources, to other AIs, and even to a therapistβall to better understand what AI voice is able to do, what it can't yet.."
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Bookmarks / notes for the future on stuff I discovered during today's #FediForum. In random order:* Threads's Graph API https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v20.0/threadBookmarks / notes for the future on stuff I discovered during today's #FediForum. In random order:
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Am I missing something obvious with the negative responses to #SubClub? I've seen complaints about people being opposed to artists and other creators making any money from their work, ever, is it just more of that?@stefan The main negative response I've seen that makes sense is - it's closed to anything related to sex work (so, comparisons with OnlyFans are sadly invalid). But that's because the payment processor used, Stripe, is notoriously anti-sexwork friendly. Aside from that, I think that the open social web /absolutely/ needs paid channels. We need that Substack analogue, etc.
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Simulating network requests to test a new feature in @distributed@darius @mauve @trwnh @jenniferplusplus @thisismissem Heh I never understood the "no polling in ActivityPub" part -- the Outbox is *right* there