@chuck correct on all counts.

@darius @trwnh I think a client that recognized an activitypub embed, dereferenced it, saw it was a reply, and included a "via" link to the top of thread activitypub object could be pretty neat! I'd probably really enjoy having that contextual clue that the quoted bit is part of a larger picture regardless of the intent of the person quoting it. but I really feel like this is all presentation not protocol.

@darius @trwnh I agree! it'd be one thing if the systems involved defined the constituent parts of a context, so that there'd be value in possibly providing a link to the original context, but I'm pretty sure that's not a thing here (yet?) so it's definitely not sufficient in and of itself. I personally don't think "quote post" is anything more than "link to thing I guarantee is an activitypub object rather than some other type of web content", and I'd prefer to see the fediverse move to rendering embedded references to other fediverse content inline, but that it should be all client rendering decisions ultimately anyway, I think.

@trwnh been pondering this. I think the cleanest relationship I've been able to come up with is that a quote post recontextualizes the original post. it removes it from its original context and places it in a new context.

if everyone chips in we can definitely buy a plutocrat to do our bidding. this is clearly a great idea.

willing to pay a twenty dollar bribe to anyone who can get regulations passed to require residential internet service providers to allocate and assign, at a minimum, a fully routable /56 of IPv6 address space to each customer.

hip hop cyberpunk concept albums

1990 was wild, kids, you just don't really know.

good morning fediverse.

saw something slide by that mentioned yesterday was the 10th anniversary of Let's Encrypt and y'all, that's nice. really nice.

I remember all too well the hell of commercial certificate authorities being yet another toll gate to getting a service online. Let's Encrypt changed that for the better for us, and the fediverse as it currently exists would have been much smaller without Let's Encrypt empowering operators to get free trusted certs.

we could do with more of that sort of success.

a gentle reminder that it is compulsory to kick out the jams, motherfuckers. you have to kick them out. it is not optional.

Happy November to all those who no.

I am squishing your head.

@sungo totally agree.

the sub-500 active user, community focused, often (but not always) topically themed instances of the fediverse are absolutely the sweet spot in my opinion for using this as a place for getting to know people over the long term. huge noisy instances just have no local community generally because they're too dang big and they have no mechanism for sub-communities (local neighborhoods?) to grow and thrive, in no small part because we flatten interactions into weird all-or-nothing relationships in this following-follower modality so building community through instance choice and heavy use of the local timeline is the only real play.

my favorite part of the fediverse is the opportunity to come up with a new analogy for what the fuck it is every few months year after year.

@trwnh I'm with ya, yeah

offline card catalogs and microfiche and microfilm are good and useful to this day. "taking things online" should not also take them away from the offline. might need the offline analogue. y'know. in case something fucks the online.

@trwnh mmm, feel like "it is been" is as wrong as "it has be" personally, but not a hill I'd even fight on haha

it has only become possible to be aware of the real-time happenings of humanity around the world during my lifetime. the phrase that comes to mind is "information overload". you live in unprecedented times. give yourself a break from the firehoses, and give yourself a break from the self-criticism for not knowing how to deal with the information overload.

Had a local fella who's a regular for coffee swing through to tell us how pleased he is that we're running Democracy Now on New Ellijay TV.

He's a big fan of all the stuff we've got going on down here, and bought a copy of "51 Miles from Nowhere" on vinyl before he left.

We're doing good things. It's nice to hear from a neighbor.

this whole I post things on my thing and you get it on your thing and you post things on your things and I get them on my thing is pretty cool and I think it's got legs and will stick around a while.