@kris yeah no, XMPP does not have e2ee in group chats. It has 'encrypt your message to each recipient with OMEMO individually' in group chats which is laughable to anybody even remotely knowledgeable of cryptography. Not to mention that OMEMO is pretty bad on the best of days.
But sure sure, MLS will fix everything. Maybe I'll even see it deployed in my lifetime

@kris I mean true if you just don't have e2ee for chat rooms it's much easier to never have broken e2ee in chat rooms.

@bootblackcub In terms of E2EE both are pretty bad, but XMPP is *slightly* worse. If E2EE does not matter to you (likely since you're setting up your own server anyway), then it depends if you need 1:1 chats or want a good chat room experience. XMPP can not offer the latter, but is as a whole experience better for the first (although the protocol shows how incredibly dated it is in the features it plain does not have, like replies/threads or reactions).

@darius Huh. In that case I have just lucked out into the two culinary cultures that are actually *really* old by most others' standards?

@thisismissem Isn't SQLite weakly typed enough that this is basically a no-op? ^^'

@theresnotime what'cha doing in Berlin?