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How much is too much to pay for climbing access?I'm not opposed to paying for access to outdoor climbing. It does take resources to maintain the trails and routes in an area, and I believe the people that do that should get paid for their work.
I do wonder how reasonable this pricing is. Given that LCOs exist and take responsibility for crag and trail management, and given that these tend to rely on donations, I'm not fully convinced that a flat fee of $5/day is the best option. Another thread in news talked about the accessibility of gym pricing and "pay what you can." I like to believe that climbing can be financially sustainable based on donations from those who can afford it.
My LCO, Southeastern Climbers Coalition, does some fun events and such that incentivize membership. For example, I "accidentally" became a member when I signed up and paid registration fees for one of their bouldering competitions. I think things like that are a great idea! Maybe a more accessible way of getting money for maintenance would be to look at fundraising tactics like that as opposed to flat fees that are clearly opposed by at least some considerable portion of climbers
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Can Climbing Outrun Its Own Elitism with Inclusive Gym Pricing?Oh very interesting. I do agree that climbing can be prohibitively expensive, so I'm glad to see something being done about this.
I also find the PWYC model to be promising, I think it could conceivably be a good way to further encourage (and socially enforce) good faith and positivity in the climbing community. Meaning it can make climbing more accessible, reinforce integrity and "being a good dude" in climbing culture, and if people start telling their friends about how they "get to pay less because they lied about their income," the PWYC model could be enforced by social ostracization or other social pushback against not "being a good dude."
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Fill out the 2024 Access Fund climber's survey!If you climb outdoors, please fill out the Access Fund's 2024 climber survey! Access Fund is a great organization that advocates for and contributes to the sustainable maintenance and conservation of public land for climbers, and this survey helps make sure that all climbers are represented by their work.
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Introducing the OpenBeta Forums!@tradiban What are you specifically trying to scrape? There are legal concerns about scraping the whole site, but I'm sure it'd be fine to import your own content if we have a tool for it
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Re: Practice anchors install (w/ pictures!)Sweet! Have you tested it at all yet? Do you see any flex of you try to hang from it?
Another idea might be just a piece of 2x4 screwed lower to the ground to act as a foothold while you're "on" the anchors
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Shenanigans and candids from Red River Gorge, July 2024I'm pretty nooby with different belay styles, I pretty much only know lead and top rope, I don't know how to do things like belay from above or rappel and such. Maybe you or someone else could make a guide? I'm always looking to become more of a climbing nerd
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Shenanigans and candids from Red River Gorge, July 2024Had a great time with some friends at RRG last month. I made another post with more sporty shots, but here are some of my favorite shenanigans and candid shots from the trip.
One of my favorite moments is the first picture, where I anchored directly into the third bolt of a route so I could use my fancy camera to get some pictures of friends climbing the route next to it.
Can't wait to go back!
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Introducing the OpenBeta Forums!Hello there!
At OpenBeta, we love climbing! We assume you do too, which is probably why you're here. We also love the climbing community: the friends you make at the crag or in the gym who point out the best routes, share gear and advice, and support each other on their projects. We think that the connections we make through a shared passion - whether they last a lifetime or just one climbing session - are part of what makes climbing so special, and so fun!
We also believe that everyone benefits when information and communication is accessible to everyone. The climbing information in OpenBeta is accessible to everyone via the main website and the free API. While we currently have a Discord server to help facilitate communication and community, Discord servers require a login to join a server and see the discussion, and even then it can be hard to find information if you're looking for a particular discussion thread.
That's why we're proud to announce the OpenBeta forums!
@julian, on behalf of NodeBB, has generously offered to host these forums, powered of course by their excellent open-source forums software. We're hoping this can be a great resource and a platform for the climbing community. We encourage users to post guides, ask questions and engage in discussion, share recent trips, and maybe even find climbing buddies to meet up with! This is also a great place to discuss OpenBeta itself to suggest features, provide feedback, and ask questions.
You can sign up to the forums with your existing OpenBeta or Discord accounts, and then feel free to introduce yourself in General Climbing! Make sure to review the Community Guidelines, but the rules really boil down to "don't be a jerk and have fun."
As with the main OpenBeta app, the more people that come here and use the forums, the more useful it is to everyone, so please tell your friends! And thanks for being here!
Signed,
Your friendly neighborhood Ben