At a large LA park:
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At a large LA park:
- kids! Playing softball
- grandpas and grandmas! Walking around, talking to friends, playing Chinese opera loudly
- people of many diverse backgrounds and agesJust some simple things I miss about real cities. San Francisco feels like a very weird, hollowed out city on many fronts. I think if I see a bunch of kids at once in SF I’ll be like ‘wow’. Outside of certain SF neighborhoods (Chinatown, Mission, TL), the city just feels very homogenous and bland to me
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When you build a city that only people who can afford 3-7K rent can live in, you get a city that feels just like what people who can afford 3-7K in rent want.
There are bits and bobs, but for the most part I feel you have to really look, or spend a lot of time looking for community that isn’t homogenous.
Some neighbors of mine in SF just told me they’re leaving cos they can’t exist without tech jobs.
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I’ve been advocating hard for us to move to the east bay at some point. Not in the next couple of years (need to be within 20min transit commute range of school / work) but maybe after.
I love San Francisco, but I don’t think I can live there long term. It’s not good for my soul. As it is I have to go sit in a park in Chinatown every couple of weeks to feel like I don’t have only rich, white, tech people around me.
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@[email protected] I mean, most of my friends work in food, or other service jobs, and can't afford anything near that. It's possible but you have to be lucky, or extremely tenacious, or both
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There are a bunch of lefty tech people I know and love in SF. That helps, but it still doesn’t scratch my need to be in much more diverse community.
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@skinnylatte I left the bay because of all the tech people, so this feels relatable to me 🫠
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@skinnylatte come to the east bay! We don’t have fog and we have lots of good food.
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@skinnylatte similar thoughts in the PNW. I grew up across the Puget Sound, lived in Seattle proper 20 years. There's fewer and fewer kids, and most of the folks you see are big tech, service industry folks commuting in to serve tech workers, or just plain homeless. The imbalance is spreading through the area as the merely well-off get priced out of town.
I've had my fill of Seattle's growth. It's just another understatedly ostentatious yuppy habitrail, and has been for a while.
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There's probably also something to be said, beyond the simple cost of living, with the quality of city schools. Most parents I know have moved to the suburbs for the schools because they can't afford both city rent and private school. @randomgeek
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@JessTheUnstill @skinnylatte didn't they used to be pretty good?
As a non-parent I haven't paid close attention, but while I lived in Seattle (1999-2021) most school-funding items on the ballot passed easily.
Wait, there's been the bussing thing forever, so maybe not as rosy as I assumed.
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@skinnylatte agreed there are many blah neighborhoods in SF. In addition to those you list, I’d add Duboce Triangle and Ingleside/Oceanview as other dynamic spots
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@sfpodge I like Ingleside / ocean / balboa park / outer mission also
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@skinnylatte I was actually pretty pleased at the level of diversity I’m seeing in the sf scavenger hunt type game going on right now. Was a totally pleasant time today!
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@skinnylatte I love my radical SF community. Come to the Mission! It’s almost as warm as Oakland… almost ️
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@skinnylatte outer mission has some of the best greasy spoons in the city
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@sfpodge and Chinese bbq (Do Eat) and fish tacos when they reopen (Chicano Nuevo)