I've faked this in inspector but as an example I found this position is rather more comfortable and less visually troublesome than hanging medallion like below an avatar, and when the avatar is gone as per customisation, then the checkbox doesn't cause unforeseen issues.
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Turn off User Avatars in Topic Listings (ACP option)@brazzerstop Thanks for that and that's what I meant by "easily customised" (talking to the converted) but I often think about mass market where someone wants "super simple" i.e. a button and no surprises
Now to surprises, we have the current "checkbox" position to deal with when going the custom CSS route.
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3.0.0 Bug Report ThreadOne comment on the Data-line-number box looking very nice indeed with a Copy & Paste button perfect click and response feedback
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How fast is your broadband?@julian Indeedily, less is truly more.
Oh and here is the opening online comment from a run of comments on the issue of ISP magic and speedtests.
I want to start by saying this is anecdotal, and I feel paranoid for even thinking it. But often my internet will feel very slow, so I'll open speedtest to check if something's wrong. When I do, all of my stalled tabs suddenly spring into action and finish loading.
The tinfoil hat wearer inside of me speculates that my internet provider is overloaded and throttling my bandwidth, but immediately prioritizes me when it senses that I'm trying to check if I'm getting what I pay for.
Has anyone else noticed this pattern? Is there a way I can test this more scientifically?
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How fast is your broadband?@razibal It was 5 bucks extra to get 1 gigabit.
I thought if I get 600Mbps on that it's better than getting 300 on the 0.5 gigabit package!
I see comments that think providers will give improved performance if you're speed testing on one of the well known speed test sites, both of these seem more real, but good to run in conjunction with the others.
I've read comments online that think when you try the popular speediest sites teh ISP's have it so you get great performance, DSLreports might be one of the more reliable ones out there. I say run about 3-5 different tests and see what you average.
There are also these one too:
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[manual] Build a custom header in Harmony@baris Of course this is a good idea, it's brilliant and great to see it implemented too.
If you remember I suggested last year to put widget areas in the columns, perhaps consider that too?
Also, what about a widget area in the sticky navbar!
So many widget areas to play in.
I always liked the simplicity of widget system and I think it get's forgotten about, or underutilised (or maybe that's just me), but widgets have a different and maybe greater potential in Harmony theme or was being considered in the time of early dev, but as you can see now is the time!
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3.0.0 Bug Report ThreadNavbar - fit and finish, bug.
Yea visual bug is a bug, to borrow some common coding parlance. So if something is visually buggin' me, it's a bug!
Since I was playing around with this in the live editor it caused me to notice the below here on community:
Perhaps you're testing something out but when I came across on my own deployment, I moved to "close the gap" or at least some of the gaps, among other things.
You can test with this quickly with the live custom code, which also applies some increased contrast with some drop shadow TLC and I think this works universally:
.sticky-tools { background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.0); padding: 0rem 0; } .navbar { background-color: white; box-shadow: 0 4px 8px 0 rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2), 0 6px 20px 0 rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.19); }
I'm on a mission to "close the gap" on desktop and mobile, that gap is a bug, a fit and finish bug! Don't be fooled!
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Turn off User Avatars in Topic Listings (ACP option)Fixating on the checkbox, brought something back to me. It wasn't always a thing to have the user Avatar beside the topic listing.
Looking at some older platforms still alive and well, that was the case, the more social media style is to see an owner. However, I thought, maybe this would be best as a ACP option.
- Turn off User Avatars in topic listings.
I know this can be easily customised, but I actually think it deserves regard as a ACP feature.
What I think it does, is it restores a level of neutrality to topics on first look, being minus a user Avatar (owner) and any baggage that might present. Thinking more, it might deter users to read or might attract the wrong kind of noise. I thought some forum admins might like to have a quick and easy option to deploy neutral topic listings one one or all listings.
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3.0.0 Bug Report ThreadEnable Live Reload (3.1.4)
I've detect the "Enabled Live Reload" is not behaving correctly, while it refreshes the page after an update (or appears to), it doesn't actually take affect last changes, and a forced browser page reload is required to see the latest results, it's like the reload is one change behind.
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3.0.0 Bug Report ThreadOk, hmmm, well then it's even more an issue since the always-on checkbox is killing the layout n'look.
It's either stick with the checkbox as is or consider select listings as cards option instead, but have a a toggle on/off state, so no matter whatever the selection method is it's hidden for general browsing, and only appears when activated (needed).
If sticking with checkbox, consider aligning it to the left of the avatar not below, first in row, which is the logical or conventional place to put it IMHO, and because it's also adding to the height of each listing afaict, it's kinda wedged in there as is tbh.
It behaves similar in discourse like this, and funnily enough it took me some time to find that button to turn on the column, so I'd say in a toggle on/ff scenario, have that topic tool button display an on/off state in the nav bar, i.e. but no buttons anywhere else. Combine the function into what is already un the UI.
I like the topic tools counter, it's a nice visual feed back to have, however one thing I'm not seeing is a "select all" option, have I missed this?
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3.0.0 Bug Report ThreadRight I can see some of the UI behaviour I suggested is how it works in terms of visual feedback when selecting, fine, I hadn't looked at it deeply, so ignore all that I wrote on those points.
Ultimately, something if feasible other than the checkbox would be visually less troublesome meaning the same visual styling can be consistent for all users, as I assume normal users don't see these checkboxes as they have no need or access to "topic tools" or do they?
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How fast is your broadband?The latest and greatest in these parts is 1Gbps FTTH for €40 per/month (100Mbps upload)
Surprisingly good too when testing, fast.com has often hit 1.2/1.3 Gbps whatever that might be worth but generally speaking, even with the hit VPN brings you can often achieve 500 Mbps picking the right servers, and sometimes there is no hit to the ping time, but of course it can more often be 80% less.
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How to Hide the Navigator?Sorry this is not a HOW TO.
It's a How do you do?
Since I'm suitably unfamiliar with Harmony theme, not having time to look at it properly, until now. I've executed a few hacks after poking around, but I can see I'm tripping wires all over, and while I've managed to remove the navigator and then reclaim. I know I'm not approaching it correctly so that it is stable.
If anyone has the right custom css intervention that doesn't trip wires on other pages, please post. Thanks in advance.
For the record, re: hacks. Testing out the idea of removing the navigator, using Custom CSS/SASS - A few quick edits in inspector achieve a result, within a few minutes of fiddling, but as you can see below it's not right approach and there are undesired consequences.
.page-topic .pagination-block.ready { opacity: 0!important; } .page-topic .topic .posts { max-width: 1200px; width: 990px; list-style-type: none; } @media (min-width:992px) { .d-lg-block { width: 0px; /* display: block!important; */ } }
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3.0.0 Bug Report Thread@julian Yea, I'm not lamenting that loss but I liked it, cause I'm odd that way, but conventions eh.
However now that you said that, I was thinking most normal users or the rally 99.9% of a userbase, would never be selecting posts in the first instance (usually) only Mods or Admins would have to encounter the outside-convention approach of the past.
I still like / prefer the idea of being in a active mod role or not. Such a clear UI delineation of being in active mod role with mod powers versus just browsing is a nice feedback touch, when things are busy.
As an idea-example, when in a mods-tools-activated-mode, the post listing (or post) might get a obvious grey outline (or overlay to make it dull but legible, monochrome even) and when selected this might change to a brighten up to normal or get a stronger colour outline, red or bright blue, yellow.
So scrolling up and down all the sleeted post are visually clear and strong to the mod/admin.
Each listing is like selecting as if it's an entire card.
Modding in the past on other platforms was always a precarious endeavour, and when ti went wrong, oh dear, as much as checkbox is old school thinking in terms of UI, i may work but consider the above if it's deemed useful.
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3.0.0 Bug Report Thread@baris ...ah, "by design" can it be un-designed
I can see what you are doing here, or it looks like you are trying to make something very clear to avoid confusion, "how does one select posts" to apply topic tools action to etc. etc.
The old click the avatar confusion of the past (which I found rather a neat approach once you knew it) iirc there might have been some topic on that recently I vaguely saw, anyhooo... usually the approach is to toggle those visible when say "topic tools" is selected i.e. activated, the posts are then selected and then the desired action selected next and applied.
I thought I was in the "activated" stage of that procedure, not in passive browsing mode.
Is I the only one to think this is outside normal convention in general?
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Experimentation Roundup: At-a-Glance Navigator@julian said in Experimentation Roundup: At-a-Glance Navigator:
Conclusion
For now, we have updated the navigator so that it is affixed to the right of the topic content. In Persona, we had this navigator exposed only when the navigator itself was clicked. We've promoted the navigator from a component within that modal to one that is always visible, in the hopes that it will be more discoverable. The topic content was already limited in terms of width already, so the navigator is not taking up any additional space:Forgot to add this to previous post, this is not the case.
The content is off centre because of the Navigator, which is different aspect to fixed width. SO while you are not losing space, you are forcing troublesome layout and so this doesn't make it right in balance, because the contents right justification for a not very strong UI element, is not, well, justified!
We're now re-creating the worst aspect of Discourse that as I mentioned only recently got some TLC to a reasonable conclusion. A site owner/admin might want full width for their content area ( that use to be a simple and powerful aspect of NodeBB) and is mimicking last seasons look for Discourse in layout terms. It's simply not a good look.
Since I primarily navigate using keyboard and mouse this feature has almost zero use from my own user use-case behaviour, so you might say I'm biased eh.
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Experimentation Roundup: At-a-Glance Navigator@julian said in Experimentation Roundup: At-a-Glance Navigator:
@phenomlab said in Experimentation Roundup: At-a-Glance Navigator:
Overall, the navigator here looks the same as the scrubber bar used in Flarum and Discourse
You are completely correct. Flarum's design overall is really on-point, and their navigator was one of the main reasons why ours looks the way it does.
As the dev's know I flagged some of these navigator issues far in advance of the roll out (primarily the positional ones), and this was to be avoided, now that it's settled on the same as all the rest, is IMHO simply not good enough for NodeBB, especially when there was decent insight in advance of this resting position, which is 'we're at the out of idea or care/time to fix it, 'tis a frustrating thing to see happen, but it's still early days in the life of NodeBB V3 so we can be opstimsitc and there are simple solution to get the ball moving.
The primary issue is not the function and how well the navigator works, but that the navigator as is, has made a total bollox of the harmony symmetry, it's offset the text area, seriously, does it not break one face looking at it?
Now as a simple solution if the dev's are up for the challenge, and and the people think is useful, how about allow a user to hide the navigator?
I suggested in 2022 the timeline-post-navigator (DESKTOP) be developed totally on it's on timeline as a plugin or stand alone component or whatever works in dev world, ('cause I'm not a coder), but as cited, and also important to note here, none of the other platforms have managed to get it right either or understand the true potential of it as a system.
Lately Discourse V3 has done a lot to address the historical issues with their timeline navigator and for once it's actually not the horror it was before, this is primarily positionally speaking.
The reason this is IMHO actually much worse in a Harmony is because of the column layout is ver demanding and dominating, and the right column, if that column wasn't there, the navigator would naturally take up that space and balance with the left column, in a single column layout, leaving the post content area easily and comfortably centred.
What we have is a 3rd visual column (being teh navigator) offset from the right column jammed up again the post content area and a major waste of space. This is the worst outcome.
Added to that the thing jumps up and down, it's a very distracting active element in how it's currently implemented, positionally.
Something has to be done, if at all minimally to rectify some order and a balance and get admins/user options out of the box that are reasonable.
Another point is to put the navigator-timeline back into the right column. It should be in the side bar at least, again this was flagged in 2022 conceptually as the final position. Right column in the 2 column Harmony theme design.
So for now with what I seem would present least work to the quickest move in addressing issues, is to allow a user hide the thing, either as a setting in user prefers or a minimise on-screen options, the purpose of this it would reset the post content are to centre.
In conclusion, the navigator breaks my metaphorical face.
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3.0.0 Bug Report Thread@baris Is I suppose to see a checkbox in every listed post as an admin or moderator, i.e. is always on in the UI for these users types?
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3.0.0 Bug Report Thread@baris This is what fixed ma' problem https://community.nodebb.org/post/93738
I ran the upgrade again and everything is as it should be as far as I can see.