I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!
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I think people would be okay with taxing them away, as well. It could be fine to give an either-or option to each billionaire, even.
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Rust my bolts and call me the tin man, 'cause I’m standing next to the biggest strawman of the century, and he still has no brain. Dorothy’s probably on her way any second.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
10% off (of their bodies)
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Sarcasm my dude.
Death penalty doesn’t reduce crime.
What I’m calling out is that the comment laid out the blueprint for authoritarian extrajudicial killings, they just don’t get it.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
And that’s fair. I think, though, that they were pointing out that the violence in that case would be mob violence from the hypothetical revolution, not actually at the behest of an authoritarian ruler. The death penalty is not involved. They seemed to be arguing that, at some point, the measurable and visible harm a person or small number of people does or do to the world by their continued practices, combines with the risk of them using their power and influence to escape from justice should any real attempt be made to force them to reconcile with their crimes, and that this inability to enforce justice without death, combined with the inherent injustice of doing nothing, could be the fomenting factor for mob violence against such tyrants.
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Yeah. Virtually anything with an exception for the first million dollars will both lose almost no tax revenue (as a percentage), and never ever touch the rest of us temporarily embarrassed not-quite-yet-billionaires.
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Who will do this? Trump? Kamala? Superman?
This is not the way…
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I’m for giving them a choice. The guillotine or we take away their money and make them work a minimum pay position in one of their factories for the rest of their lives. I’m pretty sure they would take the guillotine after a week.
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[email protected]replied to JackGreenEarth last edited by
Maybe if it actually would make the world better, you >could have a utilitarian argument
I have no doubt it would make the world better if you kill them and distribute their money (in minecraft) to I don’t know social housing, public hospitals and schools (not claiming they will be used with %100 efficiency or %100 ethically but will be orders of magnitudes better than what billionaires are doing with them in maybe all cases). If it turns out to be a billionaire whose businesses we are currently addicted to (not gonna name names but you know), then there will be a period of inconvenience but we will get over it and adapt.
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JackGreenEarthreplied to [email protected] last edited by
Obviously redistributing their wealth would be good. Killing them doesn’t automatically give you their wealth to redistribute, and redistributing without killing them is also a possibility you seem to be ignoring.
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almost tempted to make an alt account and then post a thread in the politics community titled something like, “planning to k*ll B!ll g@tes; any help would be appreciated” (i would work on the title to make it believable, of course). but you know what would happen; i would get banned. because this whole “k!ll the rich” thing is performative, i.e. misguided virtue signalling. and it’s all very very immature.
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they will just come up with another new deal to temporarily calm us down.
then work on better propaganda to keep us submissive in the meantime.
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Don’t tease me like this.
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[email protected]replied to JackGreenEarth last edited by
yes fair point. I am also ok to give them the following choices:
1- live in a poor country with minimum wage with no opportunity to change jobs and a wealth cap (your annual earnings from other sources should be comparable to annual earnings of a minimal wage job). I have the feeling that after a couple months they will commit suicide. for billionaires directly affiliated with arms companies, this should be a country which was recently a war zone.
2- trial by combat. no wait that is game of thrones got confused.
This extra punishment’s purpose should be to act as a deterrant
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Seems like the people in the comments are rather fond of the idea
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Very idealistic to think that the redistribution of all that money wouldn’t just cause mass inflation! Also, mot of the money is tied up in companies. They don’t just have the money lying around. There would be no one to buy all these assets. I get the sentiment, that they make money from the work of their employees. At some point companies become to big to fail but when someone is starting a business the personal risks and investment someone takes to grow a company also should be respected.
We don’t produce nearly enough for everyone to be get fully all the things they rely on while barely anyone works. Thats not how the economy would end up working. We need a social safety net, so no complete free market which is toxic but as much as I dislike some billionaires your proposal is just not realistic and fantizises violence without accomplishing anything
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But also note that 99% of the victims of the guillotine during the French revolution were innocent commoners, most of the nobility escaped abroad long before the reign of terror started, and the final victim of the terror was the guy who had been in charge of it.
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Not every billionaire built their life doing something unethical. Killing them wouldn’t make you any better. People also fuel monopolies out of convenience even if they have a choice to act ethical. We should strive for legislative change. The billionaire might be the owner of parts of a company, but we as a society use the services for our daily lives. What economic system that actually works also supports free ideas, innovation and the willingness to perform other than something based on capitalism (Communism never worked and doesn’t reward it properly). Treating symptoms won’t treat the cause. We need legislative change.
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Actually doing this would not only be immoral but just treat the symptoms of the downfalls of capitalism, not the cause. We need legislative change that has a proper social safety net, not violence LARPing.
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[email protected]replied to JackGreenEarth last edited by
Now this guy worry about what’s immoral. How about hoarding wealth off the backs of labor, is that immoral?