So... Has anyone on here actually talked with the people from the #SocialWebFoundation?
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@puppygirlhornypost2 @mia @hazelnoot @kouhai @Raccoon entropy exhaustion is a stupid concept (you can't destroy entropy! This is basic thermodynamics!!) promulgated by the fact that the Linux RNG was badly designed for a long time and had stupid "entropy accounting"
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The last fucking thing we need is encrypted dms to be used as a tool for harassment.
As per the actual work (and not just saying things) that Saotok and others have been doing, this would not be like Signal, content would be report-able and forward-able to instance admins if it goes against rules. It is to protect general conversations but not preventing the reporting of content; It is not and was never intended to be a Signal alternative.
There are concerns to be had about how content will be forwarded to administrators as you do not wanna just send out potentially illegal content (e.g csam) to other servers, as that'd count as distribution, but the general idea is to have a working report function.
I do not intend to downplay existing issues with Fedi and moderation, but the foundation is claiming work as theirs without proper transparency on what the goals are based on actual work actual contributors have already done before the foundations existence, leading to a skewed image of what some of these initiatives are supposed to be.
E2EE for AP is **not supposed to be confidential nor is it supposed to provide secrecy.** It is supposed to give a basic layer of privacy whilst still allowing content to be reported. Please see this to understand what I mean.
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@[email protected] wow this gets worse the more i hear about it, because i support Saotok. I can't believe the foundation is just spewing shit.
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I initially gave the SWF a pass despite it's connections but with their page on E2EE being so vague that it gets misinterpreted like this and causes a massive hellthread is a sign that they're not up to the task
They NEED to be clear with their goals. Not making the distinction between Privacy and Secrecy on their page about E2EE in AP as well as many other mishaps that have already happened has caused nothing but confusion and outrage
Not to mention, whilst the general idea of their goals are nice and all, they do not represent the wider community, and they ESPECIALLY do not represent what actual Fediverse admins are lacking (as you outlined quite clearly)
So far, quite a failure.
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Also, Mallory's graduate research is on encryption interoperability. She's on the board of LEAP Encryption Access Project which does LEAP VPN.
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@puppygirlhornypost2 @Raccoon Also we need to normalize having programs that do one or two things. Not everything needs to be an "everything app". Having separate social networking & instant messaging programs is a good thing because the developers will actually be able to focus on those things.
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Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon:replied to Luna Lactea last edited by
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Just wanted to say, I've been completely overwhelmed by the amount of response to this post, which is why I haven't responded to any of it yet, but I really appreciate seeing this discussion happen. -
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Just wanted to say, I've been completely overwhelmed by the amount of response to this post, which is why I haven't responded to any of it yet, but I really appreciate seeing this discussion happen.