#BlueSky isn't decentralised or federated.

⁂ Justin (StayGrounded.online)

@jwildeboer @bryanruby @jautero Eh, if every individual has to do the work of moderating every single little thing that comes their way it becomes exhausting really fast.

Putting the onus on the people being harassed to stop the harassment is a surefire way to discourage those people from participating (which knowing Dorsey & co I suspect might be part of the point!).

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@JustinH I am not saying that.The context of the "decision I leave to every single individual" in the previous post is if they think centralisation is a good or bad thing. WRT moderation in general: In the Fediverse, instance admins typically do the bulk of blocking unwanted accounts or instances. The reporting mechanism is is very relevant to that. @bryanruby @jautero

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@bryanruby Right now, in Mastodon-Land, you can migrate your account but not your content (at lest not that easily). But with #Solidpod work is being done to decouple your content from the instance, something I find extremely interesting for the near future and progress of the Fediverse. https://activitypods.org @JustinH @jautero

⁂ Justin (StayGrounded.online)

@jwildeboer @bryanruby @jautero Right exactly, but I've seen no evidence that BlueSky is actually taking on (or is capable of taking on) any of the burden of moderating. Threads is good example of a quadrillion dollar company that *still* can't moderate as effectively as fediverse volunteers.

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@JustinH I'd totally agree to the notion of "the costs of good centralised moderation grows exponentially with the number of users, thus making it ultimately too expensive to scale, leading to bad moderation on these platforms" @bryanruby @jautero

Paul McO'Smith III

@bryanruby @JustinH @jwildeboer @jautero the only people we hate more than the judean people's front is...

why is decentralisation and federation a Good Thing? what happens when my server goes down... for good?

this place is complex. servers? what the hell are they? why do i need to choose one? which one should i choose? is this a safe one to choose? what are they doing? recording? selling?

bluesky *is* twitter. the good old days. when it was safe, moderated, ad free.

nobody ever makes the case for federation. it is always why a non federated model is wrong. the post below... who the hell cares? that's such a technical complaint. that's supposed to make me think "ooh... mastodon" as a non techie?

what, in terms of simply being able to interact with people, is the actual advantage of mastodon? i am a techie in my day job. on social media i simply want to post stuff, read stuff, and interact with stuff.

federation? what is that and why do i care? make the case for decentralisation.

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@pavsmith As I said in my thread "for the general audience that simply is not the decisive factor". So I guess we agree? For me it's not an either/or question. If you prefer to hang out on Bluesky, go for it! I prefer to be here in the Fediverse. Is all. @bryanruby @JustinH @jautero

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

Now also part of a blogpost at https://jan.wildeboer.net/2024/11/My-Digital-Life-After-Twitter/

Benjamin Sonntag-King

@jwildeboer Here :
https://alice.bsky.sh/post/3laega7icmi2q
I was pointed to the fact that installing your own gateway AND plc directory mirror is possible.
Who's right then?
(I'd really like to know since some friends are pretending bsky is really fully decentralis-able)

Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

@benjamin You can mirror the bluesky plc. You cannot run your own that federates with the centralised one. The article you linked to says already in the headline that the bluesky AppView is still a problem. With ActivityPub you install your Mastodon, Misskey instance and you’re done. You don’t need to copy/mirror anything.