Nope.

[mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io]

Nope. I don't believe this for one second.

They started dating in 2018. I was telling you *exactly* who this dude was since before 2016.

She saw what she wanted to see.

A lot of y'all did.

If we could see it from way over here, she could definitely see it from inside a relationship with him.

Grimes Says Elon Musk Has Become "Unrecognizable"

Claire "Grimes" Boucher is getting personal on Elon Musk's "everything" app as she opens up about how he has affected her and her art.

Futurism (futurism.com)

Elon was dog whistling his political views as early as 2014. So no, Grimes' "I didn't see it! He's changed!" is rejected.

[cygnathreadbare@retro.pizza]

@mekkaokereke I think I remember reading a transphobic quote from him around 2014 too? not sure if it was an interview or a reddit post, but he said something along the lines of "hey we are so diverse we even have a dude who believes he is a woman and we still respect him", trying to sound progressive but insisting in misgendering that person. But trying to find the source for that with all the intently transphobic shit he says today is like doing archeology...

[pixelrobot@paquita.masto.host]

@cygnathreadbare @mekkaokereke I don't think he would post this today, and it's only from 2022: https://fortune.com/2022/06/02/elon-musk-tesla-lgbtq-hrc-corporate-equality-index-personal-choices

This one is from the same month: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-61880709

He's always been bad, but he used to pretend do be a liberal. He even called himself a "socialist" once. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-twitter-deal-politics-b2345301.html

He's always been shit, but things have been shifting, at least in the image he projects.

[mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io]

@PixelRobot @cygnathreadbare

How do y'all think so many Black people called *exactly* what his true feelings were?

mekka okereke :verified: (@[email protected])

If someone keeps saying "May the force be with you!" And "These aren't the droids you're looking for!" You know what they're reading and watching. If they say "Live long and prosper!" and "To boldly go..." you know they're a fan of something else. It was obvious what Elon was reading/listening to. This is who he has been. He didn't change. 2/2

Hachyderm.io (hachyderm.io)

We are not magic. We just... don't lie to ourselves as much about dudes like Musk. The signs were there. Many of y'all chose to ignored them.

[pixelrobot@paquita.masto.host]

@mekkaokereke @cygnathreadbare Oh, I've known for a long time. I just think you can't just blame other people. He's also guilty of very deliberately manipulating people.

[mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io]

@PixelRobot @cygnathreadbare

‍️ A large part of my online experience, is me saying well in advance that a certain person is fashy trash, and well meaning white people saying things like, "Well you don't know that!" And "Maybe we should free Melania!" Etc etc.

Then me posting stuff like this:

​Grimes says she’s “proud of white culture” after being labelled a "Nazi"

The singer was called a "white supremacist" amidst backlash online

Mixmag (mixmag.net)

Then the white folk who were trying to free Melania going silent. I never get a "OK, you were right!"

(H/t Dawn Xiana Moon for reminding me of this).

[alon@mastodon.social]

@mekkaokereke I want to be a hipster and say I was in the hatedom starting 2013, but it was specific to Hyperloop and then the Boring Company and I don't expect everyone to be enough of a public transport nerd to have known how he was blowing smoke even back then.

[randomgeek@hackers.town]

@mekkaokereke I remember listening to you and others about Elon Musk pre-2016, and being surprised at how few were listening.

I mean enough were that my peers let out a collective sigh of disappointment at Grimes in 2018, but still. I hate that we’re here today. More should’ve listened.

[14mission@sfba.social]

@Alon @mekkaokereke I could never figure out how the Boring company was supposed to be useful. If you can make tunnels more efficiently, great, sell that to people who want tunnels, but the whole objective seemed to be to make single-lane car tunnels. They had this nutty proposal for car elevators to get in and out, but I can't see how the throughput would be more than a car a minute. So all that infrastructure to transport at best 60 cars an hour, which probably means 100 people an hour. Never mind the car-centric ass-holery of it--I just don't see how that's a business.
I think their whole claim to being able to build tunnels cheaper than anyone else was just based on making smaller tunnels, and not counting ventilation shafts, emergency exits, etc, as part of the cost.

[gunchleoc@mastodon.scot]

@mekkaokereke I must admit I fell for it too - as long as I only heard about him once in a while by hearsay.

Once I started looking a tiny bit into what he was actually doing... WTF?

[mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io]

@gunchleoc

But she didn't fall for anything.

In 2018, she was sharing nazi memes on Twitter, and talking about "I'm not a nazi. I'm just proud of 'white culture.''"

She knew exactly who Elon was, and she liked it. The probably dated in large part because their views were compatible.

mekka okereke :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] 🤦🏿‍♂️ A large part of my online experience, is me saying well in advance that a certain person is fashy trash, and well meaning white people saying things like, "Well you don't know that!" And "Maybe we should free Melania!" Etc etc. Then me posting stuff like this: https://mixmag.net/read/grimes-proud-white-culture-called-nazi-white-supremacist-news Then the white folk who were trying to free Melania going silent. I never get a "OK, you were right!" (H/t Dawn Xiana Moon for reminding me of this).

Hachyderm.io (hachyderm.io)

[ajsadauskas@social.vivaldi.net]

@14mission @Alon @mekkaokereke The average in Australia is 1.1–1.2 passengers per car.

I haven't checked, but would imagine the average would be similar in the US.

So if you have a lift that carries 1 car per minute, that's just 60 cars per hour. Which means, on average, 66 – 72 passengers per hour.

For context, a single articulated bus seats around 75 passengers; Sydney's trams carry up to 400 passengers.

But it's worse than that.

Because in his future, he wants robotaxis, which potentially drop the passengers per car below 1.

So at, say, .9 average passengers per car (something that can't be achieved without robotaxis), 60 cars an hour turns into just 54 human passengers.

[mastodonmigration@mastodon.online]

@mekkaokereke @gunchleoc

Embarrassed now to admit it, but liked Grimes music. Never listened to any of it again after the moment she started going out with him. People are responsible for these kinds of choices. There is no Grimes Redemption Tour.

[aud@fire.asta.lgbt]

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] I’m not surprised she’s a white supremacist, all things considered, but holy fuck the things she said are just such aggressive nazi shit. I guess I’m not used to how comfortable people feel just letting their fucking racism out yet.

Fuuuuuuck her.