"You have the shock of Tuesday, when all of these pagers exploded, killing 12 people, injuring close to 3,000, and then, yesterday, more explosions in walkie-talkies and not clear what other electronic devices. The total, 37 dead, what, something like ...
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"Instead, the attack has been branded indiscriminate in Europe and elsewhere because, inevitably, not every Hezbollah operative was alone when their pager exploded – some were close to civilians, including children – and because the fear it’s left behind in Lebanon does not discriminate. Ordinary people doing ordinary things in Beirut or Sidon now contend with a new anxiety, nervous around anyone with an electronic device who might just be a member of Hezbollah."
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Kid Maniareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Imagine the repercussions if Iran did this to Israel.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Kid Mania last edited by
@clintruin It would be full-page news, first-page, blaring headlines.
People are people, but so many of us, media leading the way, seem intent on pretending that some people aren't people on the same level as "real" people and "important" people.
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DB 🇵🇸 🌎🌏🌍replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Great thread! Putting aside establishment voices in the West, many of us now have a completely different opinion of Israel than we may have had prior to the atrocities of the past 11 and a half months. As extreme as the views of Hezbollah members may seem to us, Israeli actions and views can also be defined as outrageous and bloodthirsty. I now have a very different idea of who I consider a 'terrorist', and it's not the people fighting western terrorism and imperialism.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to DB 🇵🇸 🌎🌏🌍 last edited by
@dbattistella I'm glad you found the thread useful. Like you, I've been on a trajectory in which I have had to confront the fact that Israel's behavior now is the behavior of a rogue state that deserves censure by the world community. The Jewish people have suffered atrocious historic injustice and attacks on them can in no way be defended. But the Jewish people are not synonymous with Israel. Commentary by morally insightful Jewish thinkers about this has helped me see issues more clearly.
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KanaMaunareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
“See, we can do terrorism too” is probably not the look the Israelis should be chasing.
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DB 🇵🇸 🌎🌏🌍replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Yes, anti-Zionist Jews have been some of the most outspoken critics of Israel's US-backed genocide. Brave, brave folk who have had to not only bear the consequences for speaking out in support of Palestine that so many others have, but also in many cases the rejection of their families and communities.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to DB 🇵🇸 🌎🌏🌍 last edited by
@dbattistella I very much agree: powerfully moral voices reflecting the rich moral tradition in which their religion stands, courageously speaking out when strong forces are determined to silence them.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to KanaMauna last edited by
@KanaMauna Amen.
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Marquise de Whatreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Israel is a terrorist state.
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Blinxetoreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Applaud? Fuck no. Wholesale killing is what Nazis do.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Blinxeto last edited by
@Blinxeto Yes.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Marquise de What last edited by
@marquisedewhat So I conclude.