To refresh your memory, you can read the minutes of last week's meeting.

Please see @[email protected]'s note below regarding agenda preparation for the May WG meeting

Follow up

The Social Web Community Group approved our application to turn this into a Task Force. Async work will happen across any federated platform followed by either (or both) of these categories Category on NodeBB (@[email protected]) Category on SocialHub (@[email protected])

Next Meeting
We're going to have our next meeting in the first week of May.

Time
Please vote in our meeting poll. Whatever time we decide for this one, we'll aim to keep as our regular monthly slot.

Agenda
Please see this google doc. Everyone has comment permission. Julian will incorporate comments into the agenda.

Looking forward to seeing you at the next meeting!

My apologies for the delay. Angus and I have been working these past few weeks to hammer out some federation issues between our respective forum categories (the ones mentioned above re: async work.)

i will not rest until fedi devs start using as:context properly. this is my single-issue. /hj

Prior our last task force meeting, @[email protected] brought up the need for a common nomenclature for ease of communication between ActivityPub implementors. Rimu also took the initiative to conduct an informal survey to see what terminology was used across fediverse-capable software (and some non-federating software).

Going beyond "toots" vs "posts", it was noted (not surprisingly) that each software has their own name for things.

The most common object type passed around via the ActivityPub protocol (as:Note) could be called a comment, a post, or a reply A grouping of as:Notes could be a post (!!), a topic, a thread, a conversation, or a discussion A higher order grouping of those could be a community, a category, a forum, a (sub)tag, a group, or a magazine

The main takeaways were that while there was occasional convergence, it wasn't entirely surprising that there were more names for things than things to name. Secondly, it was fairly clear that putting forth a recommendation to align on nomenclature would be fairly futile.

What were we expecting... naming things is, after all, one of the hard problems in computing.

All joking aside, up with a common terminology — a lingua franca (thanks @[email protected]!) — definitely has some advantages.

What terms do you think communicate these levels of organization most succinctly? Let us know!

I have a clarification question for @[email protected] regarding 1b12. There are instances where a group actor may have occasion to announce multiple notes all at once. For example:

New notes discovered while traversing upwards to root — may want to announce all parent notes An existing topic/thread (containing a variable number of notes) is assumed by this group actor (e.g. it was moved to the category/forum).

What would be the expected behaviour from an implementor in that scenario? A single Announce(Collection)? Multiple Announce(Note) in chronological order?

During our testing, @[email protected]
did warn me that a collection was announced, and that caused issues because NodeBB's implementation didn't (and still doesn't) account for that. I believe he changed up the behaviour now.

@[email protected], Angus did mention offline that you warned him about this in the past!

Is there a plugin that will compress images users upload?

It'd be great if the admin can restrict who can upload images based on their reputation.

And with that comes a question. Is it possible for the admin to assign a reputation manually at this time?

Another practical issue @devnull and I faced when integrating NodeBB and Discourse is that the Discourse plugin has been publishing collections of activities to its followers if "Full topic" is enabled (i.e. all posts in a topic will be federated). I built the plugin this way to accommodate an initial publication delay after the first post is made in a topic. Other posts may be made during that delay period, so the thinking being that rather than send multiple POST requests to the followers of that actor at the time of publication, you would just send them a collection of activities. In other words Topic is created. A few posts are made. Publication delay period ends. Publish the topic's full Collection of Activities to followers. As Mastodon also supports processing a collection of activities this seemed to make some sense to me. However, as I think @trwnh warned me, this has not turned out to be popular. There might still be something in this approach, but I'm going to be moving to just publishing sequential activities, even if there are multiple to publish at one time. That said, I think there may be normative support for representing a topic (/thread) as a Collection, so the processing of Collections may become more of a practice in time.

Hi,

i'm quite sure I read a similar question here before but can't find the related topic or remember the answer. I notice that the number of active/online users differ between the online users widget and in the acp. Can someone explain this to me?

ACP:

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Online users widget:

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Always wanted to try one but didn't want to pay the premium.

My local co-working space has them so took it for a spin for the tail end of my workday.

Have you tried one? Would you go back?

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Hey @[email protected] — would you be interested in connecting with @Jay-Moonah about having him on a show about the history of podcasting from the POV of one of the founders of Podcamp Toronto? He also founded the Toronto Independent Music Podcast back in 2005.

I was just having a conversation with him offline (how often do we do that nowadays?) and he's got an awful lot to share about podcasting and how far it's come in the years since.

RSS being an open protocol (and podcasting on top of it) sounds like it'd have some overlap with your userbase.

cc @[email protected]

I may regret creating this topic but here goes.

If you experience a bug or other unexpected behavior while using NodeBB and its related ActivityPub integration, please post it here so it can be tracked and resolved.

No formal process as of yet, and we're still at pre-alpha so expect many things to be broken or unavailable 😅

This might be useful for the user - what do people think?

A dedicated Activitypub filter in categories view

0 - All posts mixed in topic listing view (current default)
1 - removes activity pubs post from listing view
2 - display only Activitypub post in listing view

Right now (I never knew this till I checked), you can alt-click (Mac) whatever grouping of categories you want listed, but when you want to just take out the non-native ActivityPub stuff, I can't see how to do this.

As I type I'm wondering maybe then perhaps a grouping feature, where a user can make their own filter groups for viewing listings might be the cool solution. However I don't want to overcomplicate anything. There is similar in Discourse and I never use it.

I do think for the UX clear differentiation actions and points need to be available to the user, espcially if blending in ActivityPub content in with native forum content.

For a fast solution this perhaps this could be handled and tucked into the "All Topic" filter button, with at leat two new options:

exclude activitypub posts show activitypub post only

Maybe allowing that then be the users default until they change it.

This is a topic to track the FEP-400e and FEP-1b12 reconciliation, aka "How do we handle Groups". I've made this a wiki to let implementers describe their current status quo https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/1b12/fep-1b12.md https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/400e/fep-400e.md Discourse Currently Discourse implements FEP-1b12 to federate posts associated with Category and Tags, i.e. Activities are Announced by a Category or Tag actor. NodeBB NodeBB implements FEP-1b12 to federate posts associated with a category (tag actors TBD). Lemmy Lemmy implements FEP-1b12 [Add your implementation in here]

Is there a way to enable registration queue but make it so that user's registering with admin invites are able to register bypassing registration queue and admin approval? Since it would only make sense since the admins are the ones who invited the user.

Many thanks!

After reading some of the ActivityPub and HTTP Signatures draft I have found forum software being mentioned here - ActivityPub Based Forums and Threaded Discussions.

They use GitHub Issues to get dev users feedback.

Hi Devs,

Given the licensing issues with Redactor, I started transitioning to quill, using @julian 's latest nodebb-plugin-composer-quill.

Overall the plugin is in good shape, and quill is just great and stable tool.

If any of you wish to make a switch, it might be helpful to note the following:

The plugin uses a simple JSON format, instead of the good old string format we were used to. That means special care must be taken both at the server and at client. Be careful! if you have JS that are used on both the client and server, make sure to return string in each function - use JSON.stringify() where needed.

You may access quill from your plugin - the quill plugin saves a ptr as follows:
targetEl.data('quill', quill);
so in your plugin you may:
var quill = $('[data-uuid="' + composer.active + '"] .ql-container.ql-snow').data("quill");

I have not added tooltips, but I understand it should be done as follows:
$(targetEl.find('[data-toggle="tooltip"]')).tooltip();

chat: I like having icons for image upload and video links. To enable that change the line to:
$(window).on('action:chat.loaded', function (e, containerEl) {
// Create div element for composer
//var targetEl = $('<div></div>').insertBefore(components.get('chat/input'));
var html =
'<div></div>' +
'<div class="btn-toolbar formatting-bar">' +
'<form id="fileForm" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data">' +
'<input type="file" id="files" name="files[]" multiple="" class="gte-ie9 hide">' +
'</form>' +
'</div>';
var targetEl = $(html).insertBefore(components.get('chat/input'));

Also change the theme to snow. You also need to change the .less a bit to position the icons above the textbox.

*** Note, with the above targetEl changes, I am getting the file upload dialog box, but after selecting a file I am not getting the upload event - still working on this one... @julian if you have some time please help.

on chat send, rework the code to return the writing direction to defaults :
$(window).on('action:chat.sent', function (e, data) {
...// add at the end:
var textDirection = $('html').attr('data-dir');
quill.format('direction', textDirection);
quill.format('align', textDirection === 'rtl' ? 'right' : 'left');
});

See $(window).on('action:composer.uploadUpdate', function (e, data) and change the path in:
if (data.text.startsWith('/'))
to where your upload files are located.

In the same function there's some code that adds random string to the filename to avoid collision. If you are already handling this, make sure to remove it.

in composer.tpl, it may make sense to move the tags line below the topic - currently its in the bottom.

Haven't looked at sanitizing quill at the server, but found a lead here: https://github.com/quilljs/quill/issues/510

The chat teaser (when you load the chat menu) displays the JSON quill format, that is, the data needs to be filtered to extract the text. That requires changes on the nodebb core files, and I can't make these...

That's where I am at. I'll update as I make more progress.

Overall quill is really good editor, it may be worth while for you to dive in.
Happy hunting,
JJ.

I'm going to setup automated Nodebb on Different Server. I need example of config.json.

Maybe a basic question, but Im not sure, until theres a pre-release of Nodebb v4 (which I cant wait for!)
But will my forum fediverse account be enough for an all in one solution, so I wont necessarily need my Mastodon account too?
The reason Im asking is because, at times, ideal Mastodon hosts can be hard to find. I ran my own instance for a while, and many signed up - it was bursting at capacity before long 🙂
So will a Nodebb v4 forum account be complete enough to be a full fediverse solution for those who use Mastodon etc.
Can I log into the fediverse mobile apps etc?
I tried logging into a couple I have on my android phone but it didnt work.
Not sure what my nodebb fed password is, (is it mirrored from my main account) or how to reset it?
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I always seem to have two issues with upgrading Nodebb versions, (I have to go through the process twice before it sticks and possibly Im getting confused with one of the commands.)

first issue is checking Im on latest nodejs version
typing node -v shows Im on v18.16.0
typing nodejs -v says v20.12.2
Can anyone explain that

second issue, doing these steps does not upgrade first time round

./nodebb stop git fetch git reset --hard v3.7.3 ./nodebb upgrade ./nodebb start -l

I am very new to node BB. Just installed on a ubuntu VM. I did not find a way to add external link that we see in community.nodebb.org website. "Buy Hosting" and few more links right to that. Is that possible without doing code change ?

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